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			<title>Video recording glasses to double as safety glasses?</title>
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<div>I am considering using video recording glasses to capture my IPSC shooting action, but I cannot find any information about the ballistic rating of the lenses used in these glasses.<br />
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If there are any of you who have any experience with the strength and protection delivered by the lenses of thes glasses, I would appreciate your input.<br />
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I would also appreciate any feedback regarding the video quality of footage captured with these systems along with recommendations at what one shoudl consider when buying a pair ... that is assuming they would provide suitable eye protection as well.</div>


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			<title>What’s the big deal?</title>
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<div>A nice an important post from the Gun Nuts Media blog:<br />
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			I&#8217;m well past my limit with other people pointing guns at me. I&#8217;ve lost count of how many times I&#8217;ve looked down the muzzle of a gun when I&#8217;m on the range trying to take a class or do some practice. I&#8217;m sick and bloody well tired of having my life and personal safety put in jeopardy because someone is carelessly handling a deadly weapon.<br />
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Invariably when I mention to someone that hey, maybe not point the gun at me or anyone else that you don&#8217;t intend to kill, a good 80+% of the time I get some sort of pushback. Lip from the person who just pointed a gun at me. Like somehow I&#8217;m the one with the ***CENSORED*** problem because I take offense to someone carelessly pointing a lethal weapon at me. On more than one occasion I&#8217;ve encountered a real supercalifragilisticexpialidouche-bag who has the unmitigated temerity to ask &#8220;What&#8217;s the big deal?&#8221; when I try a little good-natured reminder to, you know, not do dangerous stuff that might kill someone.<br />
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What&#8217;s the big deal? WHAT&#8217;S THE BIG DEAL?<br />
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Let me break this down: Guns are lethal weapons. Their raison d&#8217;ętre is to kill people. When you get stupid or careless with a lethal weapon in your hands, you have a high likelihood of killing or severely injuring someone. When someone points out that you&#8217;re doing something incredibly dangerous and irresponsible, you don&#8217;t have the right to get offended. I don&#8217;t care how they phrase their complaint, or how little consideration they have for your feelings in voicing it&#8230;if you&#8217;re pointing your weapon at someone then you deserve whatever comes your way as a result. Most of the time people who mention the safety issue are perfectly reasonable in how they do it, but even if they aren&#8217;t&#8230;.even if they cuss you up one side of the tree and down the other, they aren&#8217;t the ones who endangered someone else&#8217;s life. You did. Thus you don&#8217;t get to be offended.<br />
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People frequently are offended, though. They seem to think that because they didn&#8217;t mean to point a gun at me or someone else that it&#8217;s somehow not a &#8220;big deal&#8221;. Bullets are stupid, folks. They leave the barrel at the same velocity and do the same damage on the other end whether you fire them by accident or on purpose. You don&#8217;t have to take my word for that. So yeah&#8230;it&#8217;s a big damn deal.<br />
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I don&#8217;t know why, but everybody likes to think they&#8217;re a special snowflake when it comes to firearms safety. That somehow &#8220;unsafe&#8221; works like the old Indian caste system or leprosy. As if there are &#8220;safe&#8221; people and &#8220;unsafe&#8221; people from birth and then they reject any suggestion that perhaps they&#8217;re doing stupid things because they&#8217;re a &#8220;safe&#8221; person. I was at a handgun class sometime ago where we did some low-light shooting. There were two relays in the class and the other relay was up on the line shooting while my relay was loading magazines for our turn. Out of the corner of my eye I saw three faintly glowing dots and it took a brief moment for my mind to process the significance of seeing three dots: Someone had their weapon out of the holster directly behind the first relay.<br />
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Now I was not the instructor or an assistant instructor for the course. So was it any of my business if someone was handling their pistol improperly?<br />
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You&#8217;re damn right it was my business. Go to just about any range and I guarantee among the range rules will include something to the effect of &#8220;Range safety is everyone&#8217;s responsibility&#8221; and &#8220;Anyone may call cease-fire at any time if they see an unsafe condition&#8221; written in them. These were prominently posted rules on the range we were using for the class.<br />
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I approached the individual and found that not only did he have his weapon out of the holster, but the muzzle was pointed directly at the spine of the person on the first relay a mere six or seven feet in front of him. I spoke up and told him that guns were to stay in the holster when we were not on the line actually shooting drills. He brushed me off with &#8220;It&#8217;s ok.&#8221; I persisted by informing him that no, it&#8217;s not ok because &#8220;Dude, you are pointing your Glock directly at my friend&#8217;s spine.&#8221; This seemed to ruffle his feathers sufficiently that he felt compelled to remind this obnoxious young whipper-snapper (namely me) that he was a Marine umpteen years ago. &#8220;Did they teach you to point deadly weapons at innocent people in the Corps?&#8221;<br />
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I&#8217;m sure he thought I was a jerk but, and I cannot emphasize this strongly enough, I wasn&#8217;t the one screwing around with my gun pointed directly at another human being. I consider putting somebody in a body bag or a wheelchair because one can&#8217;t follow basic firearms safety rules to be a heck of a lot farther into &#8220;jerk&#8221; territory than the guy trying to correct the problem before someone gets hurt.<br />
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In Pulp Fiction a character named &#8220;The Wolf&#8221; shows up briefly to help out Vince and Jules after Vince accidentally shoots a guy in the face in the back seat of the car. Mr. Wolf arrives on the scene and begins laying out what needs to be done to clean up the mess. Vince, the guy who made the mess by shooting poor Marvin in the face, objects to Mr. Wolf&#8217;s brusque tone. Mr. Wolf responds &#8220;If I&#8217;m curt with you, it&#8217;s because time is a factor.&#8221; Accidents with lethal weapons happen fast, folks. If there&#8217;s a gun in your hand we don&#8217;t have time to sit and chat at a leisurely pace about what you&#8217;re doing wrong. The danger is real and immediate. Corrective action needs to happen now. This instant. If I&#8217;m curt with you, it&#8217;s because time is a factor. Feelings aren&#8217;t the big problem in the moment where your gun is pointing at someone who doesn&#8217;t deserve to be maimed or killed.<br />
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I hear people talking often about &#8220;big boy&#8221; range rules, but I don&#8217;t often see them discussing the other half of that walnut: Big boy range rules go along with big boy accountability. That means if you screw up, you own it and you correct it. If you&#8217;re on a range with the big boys in Dam Neck and you muzzle somebody, do you know what&#8217;s likely to happen? You&#8217;re likely to get a high-decibel safety briefing at uncomfortably close distance. Get all defensive about it and you&#8217;ll likely be permanently banned from the range. Do they react that way because they&#8217;re a big bunch of meanies? Or, here&#8217;s a thought, maybe it&#8217;s because they&#8217;ve actually had teammates injured or killed because of range accidents and as a result have a very low tolerance for anyone who is doing things that might cause another one.<br />
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Yeah, I&#8217;m ranting. Fact remains that there&#8217;s a real issue here that deserves to have some attention. As ranges get busier and more people crowd on to them the chances of serious accidents go up. Just a couple of weeks ago a friend of mine was narrowly missed by a round of .45 hardball because some dude who insisted he&#8217;d been shooting for &#8220;years!&#8221; (as if that has any bearing on anything) couldn&#8217;t figure out how to work his 1911 well enough to avoid unintentionally launching a round right past said friend&#8217;s leg. On the plus side, he now knows why I keep a first aid kit handy when we&#8217;re on the range.<br />
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We need everybody (that means you) actively watching for safety problems and proactively trying to fix them before blood gets spilled. We also need to remain open to someone approaching us with a safety issue. Yes, I said &#8220;we&#8221;, as in you and me. I&#8217;m as human as the next guy and therefore just as capable of doing something stupid with a gun as any other human being on the planet. I have worked really hard to ingrain safe handling practices and I make a deliberate effort to keep my brain screwed to the end of the muzzle when there&#8217;s a gun in my hand or hanging around my neck&#8230;but I can still screw up. We all need to own the fact that we&#8217;re human enough to screw up with a gun in our hands and have sufficient humility to accept correction when it&#8217;s offered. At the same time we need to be assertive enough to actively get involved when there&#8217;s unsafe handling going on. Bad gun handling doesn&#8217;t get better on its own. Quite the opposite, I&#8217;m afraid.<br />
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Gun people often make the personal responsibility argument in public policy debates&#8230;well how about we as a community actually embrace a little bit of it when it comes to handling these deadly weapons on a range? This means thinking really hard about where our muzzle is pointed, where our trigger finger is, what our target is, what the backstop is, and what we are going to do should disaster take place. This means being perfectly willing to accept warnings from others that we&#8217;re violating safety rules.<br />
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Invariably someone will be offended. Tough. If they&#8217;re carelessly pointing deadly weapons at other human beings then they deserve to be offended. If they&#8217;re defensive about unsafe handling that endangers the lives of innocent people, then they deserve ridicule and derision. This ain&#8217;t about feelings, it&#8217;s about stopping unnecessary tragedy. Someone who refuses to go along with that program ought to be shunned because sooner or later they are going to kill someone.<br />
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Let&#8217;s stop reciting the major firearms safety rules and start actually applying them to how we handle firearms. There&#8217;s absolutely no room on the range for hurt feelings over safety issues. If you can&#8217;t hack it when someone points out that you&#8217;re doing something unsafe, stay home. You don&#8217;t need to be handling lethal weapons.<br />
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Shooting someone is a big deal. Pointing your gun at an innocent person isn&#8217;t OK. If I&#8217;ve seen you do something unsafe and mention it, no&#8230;you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing. Knock off the petulant whining and watch your muzzle. The objective here is having people leave the range with the same number of holes they had in them when they got there. Screwing this up means loss of life and limb. This is important, and we as a community should not suffer foolishness that endangers lives.<br />
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			<title>Long range shooting</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 08:12:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi guys, 
 
Hope this is the spot to post this. 
 
Ive always been facinated with long range target shooting, even when i was younger id try and push...</description>
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<div>Hi guys,<br />
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Hope this is the spot to post this.<br />
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Ive always been facinated with long range target shooting, even when i was younger id try and push the bounderies with my bb gun and later on with my &quot;windbuks&quot;.<br />
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Now i want to persue this with something with a little more punch. From what ive gathered so far, im looking at either a .308 or a 30-06. What are your thoughts or advise in this regard?<br />
Or any suggestions or advise will really be helpfull, as every dealer/retailer tells me a different story and wants me to buy really expensive stuff that ive got no clue as to how it works or why.<br />
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Regards<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[What's the big deal]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi don't know who of you follow the gunnuts.net blog but if you do please excuse me because I am about to bore you with something you have already...]]></description>
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<div>Hi don't know who of you follow the gunnuts.net blog but if you do please excuse me because I am about to bore you with something you have already read. However for the guys that don't, go have a read here. Very much speaks to the heart of many debates lately had by myself and other members <a href="http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/05/23/whats-the-big-deal/" target="_blank">http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/05/23/whats-the-big-deal/</a></div>


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			<title>9mm ammo casings</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 12:58:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Guys, I’m looking for a shop that sells 9mm ammo casings, 50 or 100 capacity. 
 
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<div>Guys, I’m looking for a shop that sells 9mm ammo casings, 50 or 100 capacity.<br />
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My local shop in Centurion does not have them in stock and it does not look like they are getting them any time soon.</div>


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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 11:01:56 GMT</pubDate>
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<div>Watch SABC 3 at 18:30 or SABC 2 at 19:00 tonight. I cant give much details besides that the sh*t is going to hit the fan in the firearm training industry.</div>


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			<title>Micro Stamping - California to Require “Micro Stamping” Ballistic Identification</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 10:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Not sure how legit this article is, but here goes. 
 
I could not find a thread about this. Apologies if it is a duplicate post. 
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<div>Not sure how legit this article is, but here goes.<br />
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I could not find a thread about this. Apologies if it is a duplicate post.<br />
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<a href="http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/2013/05/23/effective-immediately-all-semi-automatic-pistols-sold-in-california-to-require-micro-stamp-ballistic-identification-by-mac-slavo/" target="_blank">http://www.saveamericafoundation.com...-by-mac-slavo/</a><br />
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<b>Effective Immediately: All Semi-Automatic Pistols Sold In California to Require “Micro Stamping” Ballistic Identification .. By Mac Slavo</b><br /><br /><font color="#868686"><span style="font-family: PT Serif">by <a href="http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/author/fredbrownbill/" target="_blank">Fred Brownbill</a> on MAY 23, 2013 in <a href="http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/category/constitution-legal-watch/" target="_blank">CONSTITUTION LEGAL WATCH</a></span></font><br />
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In a controversial move that some believe will essentially lead to a de facto ban on semi-automatic handguns, Attorney General Kamala Harris announced that, effective immediately, all new semi-automatic firearms sold in the State of California will require a unique microstamp on every shell ejected when a gun is fired.<br />
Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a technology patented in the 1990&#8242;s by engineer and NRA member Todd Lizotte. When a gun is fired, a tiny engraving on the firing pin etches a microscopic identifier onto the cartridge as it is expended by the firearm.<br />
The law, which requires every semi automatic gun sold in the state to imprint the gun’s serial number on the cartridge, was signed into law by former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007 and was <a href="http://www.montereyherald.com/news/ci_23276318/california-enforce-micro-stamping-gun-law" target="_blank">delayed due to patent stipulations</a> in the legislation.<br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font color="#555555"><i>The legislation specified that it would take effect only when the technology was available and all private patents had expired.</i></font><br />
<font color="#555555"><i>But at a Los Angeles news conference Friday, Harris announced that <b>micro-stamping had cleared all technological and patenting hurdles</b> and would be required on newly sold semiautomatics, effective immediately.</i></font><br />
<font color="#555555"><i>“The patents have been cleared, which means that this very important technology will help us as law enforcement in identifying and locating people who have illegally used firearms,” Harris said.</i></font></div>According to proponents of the legislation, ballistic micro-stamping will help law enforcement investigators track down firearms used in the commission of crimes:<br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font color="#555555"><i>Attorney Benjamin Van Houten of San Francisco’s Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said the announcement should send a message to other states, the Obama administration and the gun industry that <b>“this is the future and it’s really critical to helping law enforcement solve gun crimes.</b>”</i></font><br />
<font color="#555555"><i>Implementation of micro-stamping “moves California to the forefront of the nation in combatting gun crime,” said the law’s author, former Assemblyman Mike Feuer, D-Los Angeles, who attended the news conference and is running for city attorney.</i></font></div>It’s not clear exactly how a firearm that has been illegally purchased, such as through straw buyers who purchased <a href="http://www.infowars.com/obama-blames-u-s-for-crime-and-gun-violence-in-mexico-no-mention-of-fast-and-furious/" target="_blank">semi-automatic rifles to Mexican drug cartels</a> from federal agents in Operation Fast and Furious, could help track down criminals using untraceable guns in the commission of a crime.<br />
In addition to being ineffective in tracking gun crimes, NRA attorney C.D. Michel suggests that with firearm sales across the country already putting<a href="http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/unprecedented-demand-americans-purchase-a-gun-every-1-5-seconds_02062013" target="_blank">overwhelming demand on gun manufacturers</a>, the new California law could lead to widespread shortages of handguns in the state:<br />
<div style="margin-left:40px"><font color="#555555"><i><b>“This is not going to help solve crimes,” he said. “It’s easily defeated, easily wears out and can be used to lead police down false alleys” if the serial numbers are altered.</b></i></font><br />
<font color="#555555"><i>Worse yet, Michel said, manufacturers will be unwilling to add this expensive feature to guns sold in a single state, and will instead keep manufacturing weapons for the other states, where demand already far exceeds supply.</i></font><br />
<font color="#555555"><i><b>The effect, he said, would be a ban on new semiautomatic handguns in California, which the NRA will challenge in court.</b></i></font></div>As has been the case with California’s 1990&#8242;s ban on semi-automatic rifles and larger capacity magazines, the microstamping legislation aims to reduce availability of firearms to law abiding citizens. Because the legislation specifically targets semi-automatic handguns, a staple personal self defense firearm, the vast majority of those affected will be people who simply want to own a handgun to protect themselves and their families.<br />
The law will have almost no effect on a criminal’s ability to gain access to firearms through the black market. This has been proven time and again with semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, which are already illegal in California but are regularly used by gangs and criminals.<br />
It will also be the case with new micro-stamped handguns, which just like non-ballistically identified firearms, can be stolen and moved through back channels without restriction. If anything, criminals will prefer stolen micro-stamped guns over others because when police forensic teams show up, their investigations will be diverted to the original owner of the firearm, not to the criminal who stole it or purchased it through underground dealers.<br />
And for those who think this is restricted to the left-coast, similar legislation is under consideration in New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maryland, Wisconsin, and Illinois. Likewise, a federal push for micro-stamping was attempted in 2008 by both the House and the Senate in the form of the <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr5266" target="_blank">National Gun Crime Identification Act</a>.<br />
Microstamping is yet another purported “common sense approach” that makes no sense in the real world.<br />
<a href="http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/effective-immediately-all-semi-automatic-pistols-sold-in-california-to-require-micro-stamp-ballistic-identification_05192013" target="_blank">http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...ation_05192013</a><br />
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			<title>How to safe keep a fire arm at a shooting range 500m from a Squater camp</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 20:06:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>http://s1048.photobucket.com/user/treemandave/media/Reloading%20and%20shooting/100_2621_zpsecdf6a00.mp4.html      the white GP reg car just happened...</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 15:39:30 GMT</pubDate>
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<div>Hey folks, I have never really found lever action rifles attractive and interesting until recently I have fallen in love with them after seeing them being used on a Western film lol good enough reason right? <br />
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I dont know much about these guns and i'm hoping some of the others on this site don't know all the ins and outs about them so please guys share your knowledge and we could turn this into an awesome thread.<br />
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I apologise if there is a thread like this one already, if so admins please forgive me!<br />
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But ja, if you own one post a pic! Show them off! Im interested in buying one once I get my sporting licence so if you guys could be so kind as to inform me of what you think is a good rifle and for what prices they go for I would be grateful</div>


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The one important rule of firearms, check and re-check every time a firearm is handled. 
 
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The one important rule of firearms, check and re-check every time a firearm is handled.<br />
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			<title>Mine security / News24 idiocy</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 11:52:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Miners-hurt-in-clash-with-guards-20130521 
 
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It would seem some of the mines' security staff have realized you need to be a little bit tough to save lives when it comes to these &quot;wildcat&quot; strikes...can't wait for the day that the mines start replacing these goons with machines. Out of curiosity, what type of weapons does the general mine security have? I've seen those transporting gold carry LMs and ARs and I know some security are issued with 9mm carbines e.g. MP5s or BXPs. Seems by the report they also carry shotguns.<br />
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
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Had a wonderful morning - was invited to the ___ Versamelaarsklub Groeperingskiet (what's the legal rooitaal name???) at Bluegum...]]></description>
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<div>Evening Folks! <br />
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Had a wonderful morning - was invited to the ___ Versamelaarsklub Groeperingskiet (<i>what's the legal rooitaal name???</i>) at Bluegum Shooting Range. Great experience and plat-op-die-aarde people. Thanks to John Welsh for info (SAGA and other) at the start of the day.<br />
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Took part in my first practical/action &quot;Mall shootout&quot; with a handgun. (I'm hooked!!!)<br />
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Shot the best grouping yet with my .222 Rem @ 100m. 40gr Hornady V-Max / 24.9gr S321.<br />
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 09:26:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Each year the National Shooting Sports Foundation surveys (https://www.nssf.org/research/RetailerSurveyReport/index.cfm)  FFL retailers around the...</description>
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  Each year the <a href="https://www.nssf.org/research/RetailerSurveyReport/index.cfm" target="_blank">National Shooting Sports Foundation surveys</a>  FFL retailers around the country to see what products are the biggest  sellers and what demographics are buying guns. The highlights from the  latest survey are …<br />
 <div style="margin-left:40px">For the third year in a row, the number of female  customers increased. For the year 2012, 78.6 of retailers surveyed said  more women came to their stores, compared to 72.8 in in 2011 and 61.1 in  2010.<br />
 Firearms most often purchased by women were a semiautomatic handgun  followed by revolvers, modern sporting rifles, shotguns, traditional  rifles and muzzleloaders.<br />
 84 percent of retailers surveyed reported that overall sales in 2012 exceeded sales from the previous year.<br />
 76.9 percent of retailers surveyed said sales of AR-style modern  sporting rifles in 2012 exceeded sales from the previous year (60.1  percent), the largest increase in the firearms category.<br />
 Retailers surveyed said that 25.8 percent of their customers were  first-time firearm buyers in 2012 compared to 25 percent in 2011 and  20.8 percent in 2010.&quot;<br />
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<a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/16/retail-sales-up-2/" target="_blank">http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...il-sales-up-2/</a><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[TEXAS company develops "smart rifle" that barely needs to be aimed]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 08:43:31 GMT</pubDate>
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Video at the link. 
 
 
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<div><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">If you can afford the $22,000 price tag...<br />
Video at the link.<br />
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<font size="4"><b><a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/controversy-as-new-trackingpoint-smart-rifle-which-cannot-miss-hits-the-market/story-e6frfro0-1226645828664" target="_blank">Controversy as new TrackingPoint 'smart rifle' which 'cannot miss' hits the market</a></b></font></span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><br />
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<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><b>A TEXAS company has developed a &quot;smart rifle&quot; that barely needs to be aimed.<br />
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<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">The maker of the $22,000 gun, being shipped to stores this week, brags that &#8220;even a novice shooter can become an elite long-range marksman in minutes&#8221;.<br />
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<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">But opponents claim the weapon will turn any &quot;two-bit criminal&quot;  into a &quot;highly trained sniper&quot;, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/05/smart-rifle-begins-shipping-to-gun-owners-this-week/" target="_blank">ABC News in America </a>reports.<br />
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<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">The company, <a href="http://tracking-point.com/precision-guided-firearms" target="_blank">TrackingPoint</a>, has said its &#8220;world&#8217;s first&#8221; long range Precision Guided Firearms (PGF) integrate precision hardware, digital optics, and tracking technology to deliver an unmatched shooting experience.<br />
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<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">&#8220;We&#8217;re taking centuries old tech, firearms and ammunition, and introducing 21st century technology to it,&#8221; TrackingPoint CEO Jason Schauble told ABC News.</span></font><br />
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The rifles come equipped with what the company is calling the XactSystem, which uses a network tracking scope with digital display interface, laser tagging to &#8220;paint&#8221; a moving target, and a guided trigger that only lets the shooter fire when there is a high percentage shot.<br />
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The weapon is being introduced at a time when the debate over gun control has raised tempers on both sides of the argument.<br />
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Mr Schauble said safety is paramount with a password which can be set on the gun&#8217;s scope software. This doesn&#8217;t render the rifle useless, but it does lock any unauthorized users out of the precision technology.<br />
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David Chipman, a spokesman for Mayors Against Illegal Guns which lobbies for an expansion of background checks for people buying guns, said the PGF &#8220;is not your grandfather&#8217;s hunting rifle used for sport and recreation this is a weapon designed to kill with precision.&#8221;<br />
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<b><a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/controversy-as-new-trackingpoint-smart-rifle-which-cannot-miss-hits-the-market/story-e6frfro0-1226645828664" target="_blank">More</a></b><br />
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:07:58 GMT</pubDate>
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<div>I was wondering whether I'm the only one that experiences the above. I carry a G26 IWB and even though I'm using Mtac for 2 weeks now, there's not much difference. Problem is I'm a size 34 relaxed fit and once the gun is IWB tight fit. Tightness causing me great discomfort especially sitting and driving.<br />
I tried going onto a size 36 but it's too oversize.<br />
If there was a size in between 34 and 36 would be right.<br />
Also tried holstered pocket carry, which does help but pull my pants too low with its weight.<br />
Tried sewing a holster into a back strap the one like a kidney belt that goes around your waist. It's nice but since I use It high it prints especially if I wear t shirts. <br />
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I'm thinking of trying a leg holster now. <br />
Also started gym but don't know how long until I see results :-)<br />
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