The practicality of a scout rifle in South Africa.

[CorditeCrazy]

There will be some lost m.v. using commercial ammo, but hand-loading can likely compensate for that.

Ya. Thinking that too, as too how much lost it’s to be seen. If it clocks in above 1800fps it’s still a very usefully rifle

[M43]

My own idea of what would be the the ideal "scout rifle" (for me) like Ell Jefe proposed would be a bolt action in 7.62x 39, 16 inch barrel with a low power long eye relief optic. If I could find a way to make it work with detachable 5 round Saiga mags even better... because then I could also use 30 rounders or anything (even if cut down) in between.

[oafpatroll]

My own idea of what would be the the ideal "scout rifle" (for me) like Ell Jefe proposed would be a bolt action in 7.62x 39, 16 inch barrel with a low power long eye relief optic. If I could find a way to make it work with detachable 5 round Saiga mags even better... because then I could also use 30 rounders or anything (even if cut down) in between.

CZ 527. Doesn't meet the Saiga mag requirement but a very nice little thing otherwise.

[M43]

CZ 527. Doesn't meet the Saiga mag requirement but a very nice little thing otherwise.

Or...

Something a bolt action in 300BLK, with a 14 / 16 inch barrel... and a short lightweight can. Without the can using supersonic ammo it can be usefull at distance.

With subsonic ammo and a can... probably as quiet as a Delisle carbine but much more accurate.

and one could probaly / with greater ease use 20 round AR mags with it.

[curious george]

CZ 527. Doesn't meet the Saiga mag requirement but a very nice little thing otherwise.

New CZ-600 Trail in x39 (Bren 2 10rnd mag) will work me.(Also in 223 AR mag compatible)

If I had deep pockets something like those Christensen BA tactical 16" in 308 that Europtics has a few of locally.(223 and 300blk)(No,I'm not associated with them.)

Otherwise something in 8.6BLK when that gets going as a first choice.

[oafpatroll]

Or...

Something a bolt action in 300BLK, with a 14 / 16 inch barrel... and a short lightweight can. Without the can using supersonic ammo it can be usefull at distance.

With subsonic ammo and a can... probably as quiet as a Delisle carbine but much more accurate.

and one could probaly / with greater ease use 20 round AR mags with it.

You blew past my theoretical budget for an imaginary gun purchase before you got to the second line. Like the idea though.

[Samizat45]

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Hope this image comes through. This is a No 4Mk2 I had modified to form a semi-Scout rifle. Scope is a Leopold Scout Scope. The No1 MkIII is there for a size comparison.

[CorditeCrazy]

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Hope this image comes through. This is a No 4Mk2 I had modified to form a semi-Scout rifle. Scope is a Leopold Scout Scope. The No1 MkIII is there for a size comparison.

The No4 makes a great platform for a Scout, watch this space.

[KK20]

There will be some lost m.v. using commercial ammo, but hand-loading can likely compensate for that.

Fortunately, we have Andy37that owns an ammunition manufacturing facility here on GS and he is going to load so that we get what we desire in terms of velocity and accuracy for our purposes.

[KK20]

Keep everything as close to the military stock as possible, cut the barrel down and move the sights back. Now the No5 has n 18” barrel. The muzzle velocity is approx 2200fps. Wonder if going shorter will have a major impact, to say 16”?

For my purposes, I would like this to be no longer overall than the CZ 200 HUNTER.