ODD 30-06 ID Required

**Andrew Leigh** · 08-07-2023, 21:15

I have an HP (Hirtenberger Patronen) 7.62x63 30-06 head stamped cartridge. They are soft point and round nose.

What makes this odd for me is that the bullet has two diameters. It is thinner towards the front (sub 30 cal.) and then where it enters the case necks, returns to 30 caliber.

Anyone know the bullet and where I can find more info?

**A-R** · 08-07-2023, 21:34

This kind of bullet shape is quite popular in Europe, as also seen in the S&B SPCE bullet and RWS TIG and TUG bullets.

This bullet design offers some measure of mechanical "lock" to keep the core inside the jacket, much like the Hornady Interlock bullet. The sharp cutting edge also cuts skin to promote bleeding from the entrance wound, and paper to punch neat round holes in targets.

Whether HP made their own or loaded a bullet from another maker, I don't know. If the ammo packaging has some explanation that may help, but I suspect you only have the loose cartridge.

**Pirate** · 08-07-2023, 21:35

Sounds similar to the Brenneke TUG

**Andrew Leigh** · 08-07-2023, 22:12

Thanks.

**Ds J** · 09-07-2023, 08:29

Originally Posted by A-R

This kind of bullet shape is quite popular in Europe, as also seen in the S&B SPCE bullet and RWS TIG and TUG bullets.

This bullet design offers some measure of mechanical "lock" to keep the core inside the jacket, much like the Hornady Interlock bullet. The sharp cutting edge also cuts skin to promote bleeding from the entrance wound, and paper to punch neat round holes in targets.

Whether HP made their own or loaded a bullet from another maker, I don't know. If the ammo packaging has some explanation that may help, but I suspect you only have the loose cartridge.

To add to this:

https://rws-ammunition.com/en/products/centerfire-rifle-cartridges/rws-30-06-uni-classic-11-7g?tx_twruag_ammolist%5BfilterForm%5D%5Bfilter%5D% 5Bcaliber%5D=33&cHash=65ad0a8d41b5218c6c0b2fbcd8de b06b