"AR" doesn't equal Assault Rifle?!

**DirkB** · 21-09-2023, 21:17

I thought we all in the gun community were one on this?!

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**oafpatroll** · 21-09-2023, 21:22

AR was the prefix that Armalite added to all model numbers for guns they developed and didn't stand for 'assault rifle'. The AR-17 for example, was a shotgun. I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.

**SSP** · 22-09-2023, 06:48

Originally Posted by oafpatroll

I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.

Especially seeing as it isn't one.

**Paul** · 22-09-2023, 09:52

In the same way that AI stands for Assault Idiots.

**Ds J** · 22-09-2023, 18:10

Does the term "assault rifle" have a fixed meaning, or particular history?

The Germans did have a "Sturmgewehr".

**Branden88** · 22-09-2023, 18:35

Unfortunately that is how IWI markets the FA on their website as well, don't understand why they didn't just market it as a "Bullpup Rifle" as that is exactly what it is.

https://iwi.net/iwi-x95/

**oafpatroll** · 22-09-2023, 18:39

Originally Posted by Ds J

Does the term "assault rifle" have a fixed meaning, or particular history?

The Germans did have a "Sturmgewehr".

As I have it the STG's were the first 'assault rifles'. The two primary criteria being an intermediate calibre chambering (8 kurz in it's case) as opposed to a full fat battle rifle one (e.g. the 8mm Mauser it was derived from) and select fire capability.

**mtaute** · 22-09-2023, 19:52

Can someone please explain this to Ian Cameron...

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**oafpatroll** · 22-09-2023, 20:04

Originally Posted by Branden88

Unfortunately that is how IWI markets the FA on their website as well, don't understand why they didn't just market it as a "Bullpup Rifle" as that is exactly what it is.

https://iwi.net/iwi-x95/

Being a bullpup doesn't stop it being an assault rifle but it still can't be an AR-xx.

**DirkB** · 22-09-2023, 20:57

Originally Posted by oafpatroll

AR was the prefix that Armalite added to all model numbers for guns they developed and didn't stand for 'assault rifle'. The AR-17 for example, was a shotgun. I'm not sure that 'assault rifle' was even a term when the AR-10 saw the light of day.

Exactly how I had it until if found the above... FA manufacturers being their own worst enemy?

But does it turn into a "DR" when I use it for self Defence? Seems as if it only works one way...

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