Carrying at the workplace

**Skaaphaas** · 15-05-2018, 11:02

Originally Posted by FNBROWNING

If the firearms control act grants you a licence for self prorection could not an employees attempts to discipline you mean that their attempts conflict with another piece of legislation. If I remember correctly and again it was years ago that was one of the concerns.Not so simple but again it would cost to challenge an employer. Just questioning here, employment law is way out of my area just that this did come up years ago

It could be seen as a reasonable infringement.

Just as you are allowed to drink alcohol if over 18, just not while working.

**zguy** · 15-05-2018, 11:11

Originally Posted by FNBROWNING

If the firearms control act grants you a licence for self prorection could not an employees attempts to discipline you mean that their attempts conflict with another piece of legislation. If I remember correctly and again it was years ago that was one of the concerns.Not so simple but again it would cost to challenge an employer. Just questioning here, employment law is way out of my area just that this did come up years ago

Right of admission reserved.
If a business has a sign that says no white shoes allowed and you rocks up with white shoes, they have the right to eject you.

Same as with your own property, you have the right to decide who is allowed on your property. If you don't want people wearing hats in your house, you are not somehow forced to allow them into your house if that is what you want.

If a shop /business / hospital / whatever doesn't want firearms on their property, they have the right to enforce that. It doesn't infringe on your rights, as it is not a given right to possess a gun in SA. If they ask you to leave and you refuse, don't be surprised if the cops rock up and tell you to leave.

It doesn't matter if their reasoning is for not allowing it didn't make sense with it, or you disagree with it.

You are not breaking any law by carrying a legal and licenced firearm, but you still are subjected to rules and regulations that occurs on private property

**GAZZAMCK** · 15-05-2018, 11:13

in kzn if you work anywhere selling liquor... or visit anywhere selling liquor

seems to be an act that stops one from carrying

**Yellowfever** · 15-05-2018, 11:27

Originally Posted by GAZZAMCK

in kzn if you work anywhere selling liquor... or visit anywhere selling liquor

seems to be an act that stops one from carrying

Does that include the owner and could the regulation be in other provinces? We are in NW and just applied for a liquor licence for our guesthouse/restaurant. There is no way I'm taking the "liq her" over the right to carry on my own property.

**Paul** · 15-05-2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by GAZZAMCK

in kzn if you work anywhere selling liquor... or visit anywhere selling liquor

seems to be an act that stops one from carrying

Meh! Local or even provincial ordinances are silly pieces of paper. The FCA is a national law.

**Knoffel** · 15-05-2018, 17:57

Originally Posted by Yellowfever

Does that include the owner and could the regulation be in other provinces? We are in NW and just applied for a liquor licence for our guesthouse/restaurant. There is no way I'm taking the "liq her" over the right to carry on my own property.

As per the KZN liquor act (well its long name):

(h) be in possession of a firearm on premises in respect of which a licence has beenissued, except for the owner or manager of the premises or a police officer on duty; or

**Paul** · 16-05-2018, 07:37

Originally Posted by Knoffel

As per the KZN liquor act (well its long name):

The maximum penalty would be the liquor licence holder losing his liquor licence. It's a silly provincial ordinance.

**GAZZAMCK** · 16-05-2018, 08:18

Originally Posted by Paul

Meh! Local or even provincial ordinances are silly pieces of paper. The FCA is a national law.

great info thanks paul

so weird that KZN just decided to make its own law and be special haha

ive never actually worried about it, but who knows these days