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  1. #361
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Date of submission : 03 Aug 2018 (S16)
    Date of submission : 03 Aug 2018 (Sec 21)
    Approval Sec 21 : 15 Aug 2018
    Refusal date Sec 16 : 25 October 2018

    Submission type: Section 16, (.223 Sig)
    Reason for refusal: Will find out tomorrow
    DFO: Alberton

    Seems a bit strange as this is all for the same firearm. Sec 21 approved and Sec 16 for the same firearm refused.
    Appealing ASAP
    All done through lawyers.

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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Licence submitted 22/08/2018
    DFO/ Sandton SAPS
    Refusal/ 29/10/2018
    Refusal letter received
    Reason: "APPLICANT IS THE LICENCE HOLDER OF FIREARMS THAT WERE ISSUED FOR THE SECTION 16 AS INDICATED IN THIS APPLICATION."

    I shit you not...what the f does this even mean??????

  3. #363
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Quote Originally Posted by JhbBoy View Post
    Licence submitted 22/08/2018
    DFO/ Sandton SAPS
    Refusal/ 29/10/2018
    Refusal letter received
    Reason: "APPLICANT IS THE LICENCE HOLDER OF FIREARMS THAT WERE ISSUED FOR THE SECTION 16 AS INDICATED IN THIS APPLICATION."

    I shit you not...what the f does this even mean??????
    it means they think you already have a firearm that can do the job

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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Username: P1LGR1M

    Province: Gauteng

    Firearm: StagArms AR15 5.56 10"

    Application type: Section 16

    Submitted to DFO: 22 June 2018

    Sms/Attention at DFO: 22 June 2018

    Provincial: ?

    Received at CFR: ?

    Declined: 12 October 2018

    Reason: "You failed to convince the Register that there is a need for this particular firearm."

    Solid motivation with all relevant membership certificates, endorsement letter, etc.

    Will be appealing.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

  5. #365
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Province: Gauteng
    Firearm: S&W M&P15-22
    Application type: Section 16
    Submitted to DFO: 29 Aug 2018
    Attention at DFO: 29 Aug 2018
    Refusal: 10 Dec 2018
    Reason: Will collect from DFO

  6. #366
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Quote Originally Posted by dustin1124 View Post
    Province: Gauteng
    Firearm: S&W M&P15-22
    Application type: Section 16
    Submitted to DFO: 29 Aug 2018
    Attention at DFO: 29 Aug 2018
    Refusal: 10 Dec 2018
    Reason: Will collect from DFO
    Reason: YOU FAILED TO CONVINCE THE REGISTRAR THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR FIREARM

    Going to start the appeal process

  7. #367
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Province - KZN
    Firearm - Stag E.C.O, 5.56
    Application Type - Sec. 16
    Submitted - 13 August 2018
    Attention SMS - 13 August 2018
    Refusal SMS - 14 December 2018

    Reason : Generic - "You failed to convince the registrar that there is a need for this particular firearm."

    NHSA Dedicated status for the last 5 years, adequate motivation, bullshit refusal.

    I will lodge appeal shortly.

  8. #368

    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Province - Gauteng
    Firearm - AR-15 .22lr
    Application Type - Sec. 16
    Attention SMS - 5 September 2018
    Refusal SMS - 22 November 2018

    Reason : Generic - "You failed to convince the registrar that there is a need for this particular firearm."

    NHSA Dedicated status for the last 2 years, adequate motivation.

    Not sure yet if I should submit the apeal and how long it will take or re-apply, don’t really want to have it on record that i was refused and have to deal with it on every application going forward.

    Havent read all the msges here yet but im sure most would agree it’s a kak explanation for a refusal after all the necessary documents was submitted like i have done with all the rest of my firearms on sections 13,15&16. I’ll probably put in an appeal but if it takes too long I’ll reapply.

  9. #369
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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Province - MP, DFO Ngodwana
    Firearm - DM4 .223
    Application Type - Section 16, first S/A Rifle
    Submitted - 30 August 2018
    Attention SMS - 30 August 2018
    Refusal SMS - 03 January 2019 (91 Working Days)

    Reason : "1) You failed to convince the registrar that there is a need for this particular firearm."

    Affiliation SAPSA, MPSA, NGX 3 Gun Club.
    Motivation backed by SAPSA Endorsement, Dedicated Sportsman, necessary points as per 2018 shooting logs etc.

    Appeal underway through GOSA.

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    Default Re: Licence refusals - Data base

    Province - North West.
    Firearm - Bushmaster 223/5.56 Nato, First SA Rifle.
    Application Type - Sec. 16, Dedicated Sport.
    Submitted - 19/09/2018,
    Attention SMS - 26/09/2018,
    Refusal - 23/01/2019,
    Reason - 1) You failed to convince the registrar that there is a need for this particular firearm.

    NWPSA member sins Nov. 2017, Certificates attached to application.
    NWPSA Official Endorsement for the Bushmaster 223/5.56 Nato attached to application.
    Lengthy motivation (65 Pages) attached to application.
    Appeal through Attorney underway.

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