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    Default The Comma Cut

    I read this article in the Tactical Life Magazine in CNA the other day. It seems like a brutally effective cut to have in your arsenal.

    The online article is not complete, but the basics of the cut can be seen in the description to the pic.

    It focuses on making the comma cut to the quadriceps, as the first stab movement should penetrate through most types of pants, and apparently baggie pants especially is quite effective "armour" against knives as it moves with the blade when you cut.

    Obviously it can be applied elsewhere effectively, like the gut, but I think if you can sever your attacker's quad, he isn't going to run after you, and you might have effectively ended the encounter.

    http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...h-a-comma-cut/

    End It With A Comma Cut



    This devastating move, and the built-in counters it provides, isn’t about hitting an attacker’s pause button, it’s about stopping him in his tracks!

    The comma cut to the quadriceps begins with an arcing forehand thrust. Once penetration through the pant leg is achieved, drop your elbow to your ribs, turning your hand palm up. After turning your hand and the blade, continue your motion, cutting out of the wound channel.



    Good self-defense technique uses natural, easy-to-learn body mechanics to produce devastating physical damage. Great self-defense technique does this in a way that is immediately incapacitating, taking your attacker out of the fight efficiently and keeping you safe. Truly superior technique does all of the above, while providing multiple offensive and defensive functions that enable you to instinctively adapt to the dynamics of a critical incident. The comma cut is an example of the latter.
    Like most things in the martial arts, the comma cut exists in many different systems under a variety of names. Our late friend Bob Kasper taught a version of it called the “crowbar” that shared most of the same qualities. If you call it something different, that’s fine. Focus on understanding the technique, not martial politics.


    Placing A Comma
    The basic movement of the comma cut is a thrust-then-cut motion. My favorite target for it is the quadriceps muscle group at the front of the thigh. Applied properly, even a folding knife with a 3-inch blade will sever the muscle completely, destroying the attacker’s mobility and allowing you to escape safely—the real goal of all self-defense.
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    Default Re: The Comma Cut

    When I did Amok,we were taught to do that with all thrusts.only we called it coning or coring.
    Iirc Mike Janich called it as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harm View Post
    When I did Amok,we were taught to do that with all thrusts.only we called it coning or coring.
    Iirc Mike Janich called it as such.
    Yep, we still do harm.

    It's like taking a nice big scoop of ice cream out of your attacker ;)

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    Cool.unfortunately,no Amok in Durban :-(

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    I heard hillcrest has a group

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    Default Re: The Comma Cut

    Monty Markow (ex Amok!) runs a knife class in Hillcrest, although it's not purely Amok!, we do other things like Bowie knife too. If anyone is interested PM me for details.

    regarding the OP, it's always a great idea to cut out of a thrust to increase the wound severity, rather than just withdraw the knife along the existing wound channel. Pikal or reverse edge (reverse grip edge in, or forward grip edge up) as favoured by Southnarc is naturally set up for this stab-and-rip-out concept, although without the need to pivot.

    I've also heard this comma cut referred to as a crowbar cut (Kelly Mccann uses that term IIRC)

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    i do that anyway, to set up for the next cut.
    minimising wasted extra movements and making every move a cut.
    live out your imagination , not your history.

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    Default Re: The Comma Cut

    what p2w said,althoughi must add that Monty is not teaching Amok techniques.
    KK,i'll take you if you want to see what theclass is about.been meaning to visit for a while.
    i take knives to a gunfight

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    Default Re: The Comma Cut

    Is there Amok based stuff in Pta? I've been on the website before, but couldn't see anything. I am really getting into the knife thing (I think it was an underlying interest throughout my life), and want to train a bit more.
    Last edited by Skaaphaas; 11-02-2012 at 15:06.

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    Default Re: The Comma Cut

    sounds pretty brutal, multiplying the cut area... eina.

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