Czech Sa vz. 58 Sporter TACTICAL .223 Rem (5.56 x 45 mm)

**Captain Hook** · 06-02-2012, 20:21

http://hbasa.co.za/csa

What you guys think? Interesting rifle? Who has practical experience with them?

HBASA can you give a rough price?

**FrankH** · 06-02-2012, 21:03

We have ordered a couple of demo rifles, prices will be extremely competitive.

DS · 06-02-2012, 21:10

Originally Posted by paddy809

http://hbasa.co.za/csa

What you guys think? Interesting rifle? Who has practical experience with them?

HBASA can you give a rough price?

There are reviews on them but we wil conduct our own research and testing when the demo rifles arrive once the Czech authorities regard us as worthy of being issued with an export permit. Hopefully we will have the rifles by the end of Feb.

Guestimate prices due to the lack of exact shipping costs are currently at R14k for the Tactical and about R13k for the Carbine and Compact.

Mags will be very affordable at around R230 per mag.

**Captain Hook** · 06-02-2012, 22:24

Not bad, I want an NEA, but thats far away for the moment so looking at other semi's. Big T suggested these the other day after talking about Saiga's.

The reviews all seem good, but they are USA-centric so doesnt answer many RSA based questions.

**M14sRock** · 07-02-2012, 06:51

I am gonna need one of those if they bring them into the U.S.

**Bosman** · 07-02-2012, 07:57

I would also love one. I see it will also take the AR's mags if it is fitted with that mag-thingie.

**M14sRock** · 07-02-2012, 08:14

Originally Posted by Bosman

I would also love one. I see it will also take the AR's mags if it is fitted with that mag-thingie.

I saw that too. And I have a huge pile of AR mags. How convenient.

DS · 07-02-2012, 10:18

Dave at NEA has several VZ58 rifles (not sure what brand) and one I seem to recall with around 100k round count. He reported on the VZ58 being a very reliable rifle.

What is interesting to me is the fact that they weigh similar to what an AR weighs, lock back/open on an empty mag, have affordable mags, option of an adapter for use of AR mags which are features that distinguish them and imo give them some advantages over the LM/AK/Galil type rifles.

CSA also gives a very good factory warranty.

**Paul** · 07-02-2012, 10:28

I have previously opined that I just plain don't like the VZ58. Maybe having one in otherwise new condition jam up solid on me in the middle of a firefight has something to do with that.

Nonetheless I am happy to be proven wrong with these guns and will be right at the head of the queue to test them.

I similarly told Roger I wasn't interested in the Grand Powers last year, and have had to eat my words as far as they are concerned, so I can be taught new tricks ;-{>}

**abhm** · 07-02-2012, 11:57

I have practical experience with the system.

I love it, mine was dependable, comfortable, accurate not much more you could ask from a system.
A joy to shoot, easy and simple to operate and with the ones from Khumba/ HBA you get the "upgrade" model

I used mine in a psd role in Afghanistan so lots of rough handling, dust, bumps, dust, crappy ammo, dust, cold (fricking cold!), heat (boiling bloody hot)...did I mention dust?

In terms of wrking with HBA, well its Khumba, we have all known him for a long time, a man of his word who will back his products 100000000000% and break his left nut to give you good service, Frank is a good bloke as well...