Unintended Consequences

**wrm** · 28-04-2009, 16:52

If you value your free time, do not go here

http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/library/

And do not download Consequenses.pdf

And don't read it.

Because it will chow up all your free time and your wife will nag at you.

Recommended.

**camouflage762** · 28-04-2009, 17:00

Saved to favourites ;)

**Bahrahsimo** · 15-06-2009, 19:49

Originally Posted by wrm

If you value your free time, do not go here

http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/library/

And do not download Consequenses.pdf

And don't read it.

Because it will chow up all your free time and your wife will nag at you.

Recommended.

I did not go there and I did not did not download it AND I didn't start reading it....
hpy71

Ok ok... I did all of that... AND now I'm hooked....

hehehe

Thanks!!!!

**Francis** · 15-06-2009, 20:06

is this the book by John Ross?

**Bahrahsimo** · 15-06-2009, 20:13

Yes it is...

**Francis** · 15-06-2009, 20:28

Well,

you guys should know that the book has a number of parts taking place in RSA, old Rhodesia, as well as Angola. It was the first place i had learned of the military exploits of soldiers in those conflicts as a teenager back in 1996. One of the main characters is a Jo'berg resident (American ex pat). David Scott Donelon the famous Rhodesian SAS member Selous Scout and SADF 5 Recce commando vet is a minor character. It was one of the first things i read that wanted to make me visit your country. Ross alludes to South Africans being a much more freedom oriented people than Americans and its alluded that South Africans would not put up with alot of the restrictions Americans are starting to tolerate.

Almost all the characters are real people with their names slightly changed. I'm sure the Rhodesians and South Africans will be readily recognizable to the members of this list. Humpty Atkinson is of course the famous SAS Sgt John "Lofty" Wiseman.

Enjoy gents,

Francis

**Bushboy** · 11-09-2009, 10:17

Ok I read the book, not bad. I felt he spent too much time on little side plots. His premise though is very interesting. Could it happen? I suppose its possible. What about here? again Unlikely. Many Zimbabweans who have/had the means, expertise and resources to stop what was going on didnt, they prefered to go with the flow and eventually bailed. In this country there are plenty who could do what was done in this book but choose to take the path of least resistance each time thier liberty is slowly eroded. I suppose we are all guilty of this to one degree or another. This is why it continues.

**wrm** · 11-09-2009, 10:29

It's a boiling frogs thing.

If you push slowly, you can push a long way.

If you push too fast, things will explode in your face.

John Ross' premise is that the USA feds pushed too hard, thereby pissing people off enough for them to take action.

In Enemies Foreign and Domestic which I've just read, the situation is somewhat different, in that the people are not given a choice. Things explode in their faces and they react. Not IMO as good a read as UC, because I do love the side plots (I'm a Neal Stephenson fan too :-).

Government is rather good at pushing to the limit and no more, and going "look over here! Shiny!".

**prepare2win** · 17-09-2009, 14:52

While it was a long read, I felt it was totally worth it. The side plots and stories were well written and entertaining. I learnt a lot from the book.

reminds me of this quote: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." - Claire Wolfe

**FTP** · 29-09-2009, 13:39

I love you for introducing me to this book, everone else i know however hates you, as Ive been up till 1am for the last few nights reading.
Its addictive, and im dreading the end of the book.
lets start something new.

start posting books of a similar nature right here...

my suggestion would be

1) Street Blues (a police reservists memoirs of his days with the SAPS)
2) thin blue line (a look at the act of policing and its implementation in a country like South Africa)