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    Default Mpumalanga traffic cops illegally armed

    2012-11-18 22:15





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    Mbombela - Hundreds of Mpumalanga traffic officers have been carrying illegal weapons since the Mpumalanga Traffic Management Unit was transferred from the department of public works, roads and transport nearly 18 months ago.

    The firearm licences are still in the name of public works, roads and transport and have not been carried over to the department of community safety, security and liaison.

    “Officers are carrying weapons licensed to a department for which they don't work and the HOD of the department of public works, Kgopane Mohlasedi, is legally accountable for weapons over which he holds no command,” warned provincial Democratic Alliance (DA) leader Anthony Benadie.

    The department of community safety, security and liaison took over the responsibility for licensing firearms in June 2011.

    However, during the most recent legislature sitting, community safety, security and liaison MEC Vusi Shongwe admitted that his department only started with the process of licensing firearms in September 2012 and that the process has not been completed yet.

    “We are busy with the process and will finalise it as soon as possible,” he promised.

    Benadie said the possible legal ramifications of this oversight are immense.

    “Traffic officers are potentially carrying firearms and ammunition illegally and are liable for arrest. Should any be involved in a shooting incident, specific attention will be paid to the necessary permits to carry these weapons, and the consequences will be severe,” he said.

    He called for Premier David Mabuza to relocate the unit back to the department of public works, roads and transport, “even if only to ensure legal compliance”.

    In terms of the law, the head of a government institution must be registered with the relevant Designated Firearms Officer.

    The head of the government institution has the right to issue firearm use permits to officials and must ensure that a detailed Firearms Stock Register is kept.

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...armed-20121118

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    Default Re: Mpumalanga traffic cops illegally armed

    What about competency certificates for the officers? Unit standard 117705 - Knowledge of FCA? Or is it just a given that they have it?

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    facepalm.jpg

    We really need an emoticon for this...
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    So......I take it that the saps are planing a sting operation to remove the firearms? If a private security company was in the same situation, there certainly would be arrests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankH View Post
    So......I take it that the saps are planing a sting operation to remove the firearms? If a private security company was in the same situation, there certainly would be arrests.
    +1

    Look, it's a fuckup, not an intentional criminal act, but still!
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    Lets hope they deal with the training and red tape, get these guys legal rather than remove their FA's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    +1

    Look, it's a fuckup, not an intentional criminal act, but still!
    Accidental shooting and killing of your son in your living room when cleaning your gun is also a fuckup and not intentional, but you're going to be in trouble nonetheless.

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    Default Re: Mpumalanga traffic cops illegally armed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    +1

    Look, it's a fuckup, not an intentional criminal act, but still!
    What's good for the goose should be good for the gander. How many precedents can we set in one week I wonder?
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