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Thread: You are liar Mr Howard!
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17-01-2013, 11:37 #1
You are liar Mr Howard!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/op...too.html?_r=3&
A study by McPhedran and Baker compared the incidence of mass shootings in Australian and New Zealand. Data were standardised to a rate per 100,000 people, to control for differences in population size between the countries and mass shootings before and after 1996/1997 were compared between countries. That study found that in the period 1980–1996, both countries experienced mass shootings. The rate did not differ significantly between countries. However since 1996/1997, neither country has experienced a mass shooting event despite the continued availability of semi-automatic longarms in New Zealand. The authors conclude that “the hypothesis that Australia’s prohibition of certain types of firearms explains the absence of mass shootings in that country since 1996 does not appear to be supported… if civilian access to certain types of firearms explained the occurrence of mass shootings in Australia (and conversely, if prohibiting such firearms explains the absence of mass shootings), then New Zealand (a country that still allows the ownership of such firearms) would have continued to experience mass shooting events.”
You can find the full report here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22551044
And nor has it made much of a difference to the overall Australian gun murder rate :
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17-01-2013, 12:02 #2
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Re: You are liar Mr Howard!
Nice stats, thanks WZ.
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17-01-2013, 12:04 #3
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17-01-2013, 12:32 #4
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Re: You are liar Mr Howard!
Si - I did.
Howard, Rudd, Gillard are all equally two-faced in my view....all with their own agendas which effectively curb citizens' rights/freedoms. Beautiful country and I get on with many of the people. Their sports commentators are among the worst alive, but that is as it is.
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17-01-2013, 14:45 #5
Re: You are liar Mr Howard!
A lawyer in Australia writes to me:
"Regardless of whether the gun laws are lax or stringent, the criminal element in Australia has no difficult in obtaining firearms of all kinds - whether smuggled into the country or stolen from military and police arsenals.
Ultimately the gun laws only keep guns out of the hands of those who obey the law ...
And of course a nutcase will use a knife, bomb, gas, heavy machinery etc as a weapon if he cannot get his hands on a gun."
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17-01-2013, 14:58 #6
Re: You are liar Mr Howard!
That Australian lawyer has a natural immunity against whatever is in Gillard et al's kool-aid.
Also known as logic or common sense.
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21-05-2014, 14:48 #7
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