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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Good to see you yesterday Andrew.Also big ups to Js4 for sttempting to remain objective ):)Well done on making this important journey. Ýet.......we know it will end with a G17/19 :)Then the training begins.

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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HoggerNaut View Post
    No, its considered ugly.

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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Cool.

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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    They all come in Gen 4, except the 30S ... have you looked at that yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS4 View Post
    Skaapie: is the SD9 (and mags) still available? That is a possible contender I had forgotten.
    MRST has mags and parts. Guns, not so much. They aren't popular in SA, but it's a different story in the US.
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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Just read this whole thread.

    Reaffirms my Glock19 decision.

    @Andrew: enjoy whatever you decide on!

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    My WML is on my G19 by my side right now as I type this. The chances of me using it at night far outweighs using it during the day. Not everywhere has lights and switches aren't always accessible when SHTF. I'll be the first to admit I'm not experienced but I'm pretty sure WML beats a hand held every day. I was in this same dilemma a few months ago and this along with the 'floating' pinkie were the deciding factors in choosing the 19.
    Good luck with your choice, you've clearly done your research.
    I'm sure you will be happy with either!

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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Ok,

    so had the P07 in my grubby mitts today.

    Like the DA trigger, nice and smooth. In general the best trigger for me of the four I have dry fired. The "checkering" on the grip is rather abrasive but that should wear down a bit. Trigger finger is a little uncomfortable on DA but then when in SA is real nice and has a real positive reset. It is a little heavier than the other contenders but it points very well.

    So have shot the S&W M&P 9 and 9 compact. Friday get to shoot the H&K P30, the P07 and the G17.

    At this stage, purely based on grip comfort, controls on the pistol and general ergonomics (and the ability to alter grip) the P30 is tops for my hands. Next would be the S&W M&P9 followed by the CZ and the Gen 3 G17. The Gen 4 G17 will probably pip the CZ for comfort, not too sure what the new grips do for the ability to point. Time will tell.

    The overall front runner in the carry / ergonomics category is the M&P 9 compact which, with the 17 round magazine and the rubber grip insert make it extremely comfortable as it becomes a full grip yet retaining the compactness.

    The H&K is roughtly twice the price of the G17, the new prices on the S&W will probaly be the same as the Glock a little down from that is CZ.

    I started this process with a specific weapon in mind (will reveal this later) but my opinions are definitely changing.

    The journey continues
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    Default Re: Mmmmmm thinking about a handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Leigh View Post
    At this stage, purely based on grip comfort, controls on the pistol and general ergonomics (and the ability to alter grip) the P30 is tops for my hands. Next would be the S&W M&P9 followed by the CZ and the Gen 3 G17. The Gen 4 G17 will probably pip the CZ for comfort, not too sure what the new grips do for the ability to point. Time will tell.

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

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    Interested in the history.

    I'm leaning towards the G19, with a possible G26 for the wife ;)

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