Carry ammo availability.

DS · 25-09-2008, 13:41

BigT i recall that they were getting in a new order of Magtech (I do not know what and usually the importers only know what is on the shipment once they received a shipping invoice) early in 2009 somewhere.

DS · 25-09-2008, 16:31

AHS, one of the importers of Wichester will have only the following by end Oct
9mmP 115gr SuperX
45ACP 185gr SuperX and 230gr SXT
.40S&W - zero/zilch

**BigT** · 25-09-2008, 17:58

I can't understand why they bother bringing in the 115gr kak. If they are only going to bring in cheap stuff at least make it the 147gr White Box stuff which is at least a reasonable performer.

DS · 25-09-2008, 18:43

I will bet quite a bit of money on the fact that none of the decision makers ever read an article or review on bullet performance. It's a job for most not a passion as it is for us.

But there is no excuse for not consulting (widely) if you know jack shit.

**Thorkind** · 26-09-2008, 08:10

Originally Posted by Khumba

I will bet quite a bit of money on the fact that none of the decision makers ever read an article or review on bullet performance. It's a job for most not a passion as it is for us.

But there is no excuse for not consulting (widely) if you know jack shit.

+1 Agree 1000%. Rule No.1 in any business: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER!

**Corné** · 27-09-2008, 18:18

Originally Posted by Thorkind

Originally Posted by Khumba

I will bet quite a bit of money on the fact that none of the decision makers ever read an article or review on bullet performance. It's a job for most not a passion as it is for us.

But there is no excuse for not consulting (widely) if you know jack shit.

+1 Agree 1000%. Rule No.1 in any business: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER!

+1 - They do not know the market nor the product they way they should know!!!!!!!!!!!!

**BigT** · 15-10-2008, 11:11

Kalahari are hoping to have Golden Sabre in a month or so Yale Supreme SXT early next year.

**Brendank** · 28-10-2008, 21:50

Originally Posted by BigT

I can't understand why they bother bringing in the 115gr kak. If they are only going to bring in cheap stuff at least make it the 147gr White Box stuff which is at least a reasonable performer.

BigT,
There's nothing wrong with 115gr, esp. Silvertips. Doing 1225fps out of a 4" is nothing to laugh at, I have tested them and they definately work!
Same with the Magtech 115gr, either the GG or Blue Box, both work very well and expand very aggressively.

On the other hand, I would stay far away from 147gr JHP's, very underpowered, the only thing they have going for them is penetration.
I have a box of 147gr SXT's and some Generation 1 147gr Black Talon which I will not carry, esp. from a sub 4" barrel.

**BigT** · 28-10-2008, 22:04

What do you base this on? How do you define they work?

**Brendank** · 28-10-2008, 22:33

Originally Posted by BigT

What do you base this on? How do you define they work?

There are plenty examples of expanded 115gr rounds, for example:
http://www.stevespages.com/page8f9mmluger.html

Most of the 115gr JHP's penetrate 13+", including the round in question, 15" and Winchester 115gr Silvertips at 18".
That is good enough for me.

Question is, how do you define they don't work?