" Pistorius and the unfinished gun ownership debate"

[Herne]

Well, put my little bit in.

[Kayback]

I still want to know where the " ban the car" campaign is. People die in accidents and it is all about drive safe. Someone gets shot and it is the guns fault.

And honestly, we do live in a violent society. You can't remove that from the debate. I have a right to life and a right to be able to protect it peoperly with direct action if neccesaey.

[long range]

"Independent small arms control analyst" my arse

I had the "pleasure" meeting one of those "experts " and naturally i ask him what he shoots and where
his answer was he do not have any experience with any type of FA or related activities .... So Skaaphaas - i join you as well in this post and declare - analyst my arse !

[AshleyR]

Is this an opinion piece? There doesn’t seem to be much opinion, and instead seems to be standard Gun Free South Africa advertising.

Besides the fact that GFSA has publicized conclusions from study findings that the study itself explicitly says cannot be drawn (See Gideon Joubert’s comment), using only information provided by anti-gun lobbyists, whose sole purpose is to perpetuate only that data which furthers their cause, is a foolproof way to arrive at a one-sided world view. Lobbyists want nothing more than for people to only have one opinion to go on, rather than being able to understand the greater picture for themselves.

I strongly recommend that the reader take a look at Ivo Vegter’s 12 June 2014 article in the Daily Maverick. While he is not a gun owner, he approaches the gun debate by taking a holistic view into ownership and its effects on crime and murder, citing the most empirical studies available today, and draws a very different conclusion to the view that Gun Free South Africa tries to put forward as fact.

Awaiting moderation...

[Meteor]

Well the fact that is was published in "the reputable American Journal of Public Health" just shows that they will also publish bull. If this was pier reviewed they would not have missed the point people brought up about the 2000 act only being implemented about the same time the "study" was completed.

[Tweedledee]

I still want to know where the " ban the car" campaign is. People die in accidents and it is all about drive safe. Someone gets shot and it is the guns fault.

And honestly, we do live in a violent society. You can't remove that from the debate. I have a right to life and a right to be able to protect it peoperly with direct action if neccesaey.

I guess with car related deaths its unintentional but with gun deaths there is the element of intention. I think knives would be a better option for that argument.

[Kayback]

I guess with car related deaths its unintentional but with gun deaths there is the element of intention. I think knives would be a better option for that argument.

- Two-year-old KZN toddler shot by 6-year-old dies in hospital
- Man accidentally shoots his 8-year-old daughter in the head
- Woman shoots husband, mistaking him for burglar

Those sound like accidents to me.......

[Tweedledee]

Those sound like accidents to me.......[/COLOR]

Oops sorry I misunderstood you!

[Lian]

"Independent small arms control analyst" my arse

I'd like to see their diploma, for one.