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    Default Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Following the latest calls for gun control in the media, I have decided to now record every single incident where police (R5, z88, px4storm), Army(R4) and smuggled (ak47) firearms are involved as I come across them in the media. Especially after reading this again:

    2009: police announce stricter controls over their own firearms because they lost 147 R5 rifles in 2009
    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...-cops-20091024
    They call for new restrictions now, but look at how little their previous "tightening of controls" helped.

    Just starting from the 28th of October I already have this:

    Recent (2014 last quarter) incidents involving police/struggle/smuggled firearms.

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...oburg-20141030

    http://www.netwerk24.com/nuus/2014-1...kaper-wat-vlug

    http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/...0#.VFT0OvmUfiR

    Found the links due to gunsite members posting the incidents (Khumba and Boerbokrib) Thought I'd consolidate it in one large list we can use as tangible evidence in debates.

    If anyone should read in any media of such weapons involved in crime, please post it here and I will add it to my list if I haven't done so already.

    If there is already such a list in circulation be so kind to point me towards it. And I will just add to that one.

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Great idea , imo this will be a very usefull resource in the times to come.

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/show...highlight=Lost

    We must not loose this info for the fight to come - post #11

    In the Beeld yesterday (I posted about GFSA's latest bs misinformation) Claire whatever from GFSA said nothing about these losses as a very real source of firearms for criminals.

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Great move. How about using something like paste bin and sharing with members on this site? Will allow everyone to see what's already there and provide them the chance to add to it accordingly.

    It would seem there's a lot of siloed work going on. Open collaboration is perhaps the answer here.

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    We must not loose this info for the fight to come - post #11
    Thanks Khumba I added that one under 2012.

    How about using something like paste bin and sharing with members on this site? Will allow everyone to see what's already there and provide them the chance to add to it accordingly.
    Sounds good Peaceofficer, but will have to check out how paste bin works, I am not familiar with it.

    I also copy and save the news articles in case some of the links stop working. I imagine it will become a sizable document sooner rather than later.

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Somewhere there is also all the FA's supplied to the IFP during the faction fighting in the 1990's - cant remember where i saw it, but the numbers were scary and there is no trace of virtually any of those

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    We could also create a Dropbox share (I guess it is similar to pastebin?) and then sticky a thread with the details and link to access that share.

    But then we keep it organised in folders and articles must be uploaded in their own documents or text files with a fixed or default filename, in order to quickly search and find relevant articles.

    For example:
    ROOT FOLDER
    -> SAPS Related
    -> SADF Related
    -> Civilian Related

    Or which ever main folders one decides on.

    And one can have a fixed format for file names i.e. "YYYYMMDD-category-"article title".txt/.doc" etc



    Just a suggestion

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Start a wiki.

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    Quote Originally Posted by volstruis View Post
    Start a wiki.
    As in a how-to for uploading files or are you talking about something else?

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    Default Re: Police, Army and smuggled weapons used in crime.

    I would imagine volstruis is referring to a wiki for storing all this info. Not a bad idea either.

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