Nite Core reviews the pepper spray they distribute

**bcs** · 22-04-2015, 11:58

I used KO Pfeffer on pitbulls and it did squat. On the other hand I rigged up a booby trap and set it off myself (

) and the KO was much more effective in that instance. I really think pepper spray effectiveness comes down to anger and determination. If a raging homicidal maniac is trying to murder you I suspect pepper spray will be as effective as mouthwash.

**bcs** · 22-04-2015, 12:01

However, if you are using KO to saturate a room so that people can't loot it, I suspect that it will buy at least a two hour window wherein that room will be uninhabitable.

**Taranis** · 22-04-2015, 12:14

Originally Posted by SeanG

KO, also known as Defenol is a CS gas, not a OC type spray.
Excellent stuff, but no substitute for a firearm.

This is definitely OC (natural).

We use it for vagrants who are aggressive or trespass and won't leave. Not a substitute for anything.

**bcs** · 22-04-2015, 12:21

Originally Posted by Taranis

This is definitely OC (natural).

We use it for vagrants who are aggressive or trespass and won't leave. Not a substitute for anything.

That's exactly what I think it is good for: situations where a certain level of aggression is inherent but where the aggressor is not expecting serious resistance.

**John Reid** · 22-04-2015, 12:52

Originally Posted by bcs

I used KO Pfeffer on pitbulls and it did squat. On the other hand I rigged up a booby trap and set it off myself (

) and the KO was much more effective in that instance. I really think pepper spray effectiveness comes down to anger and determination. If a raging homicidal maniac is trying to murder you I suspect pepper spray will be as effective as mouthwash.

Have you had mouthwash in your eyes? I hink I may prefer OC to Listerine.

**SeanG** · 22-04-2015, 13:15

Originally Posted by John Reid

Have you had mouthwash in your eyes? I hink I may prefer OC to Listerine.

Not going to even ask....

**bcs** · 22-04-2015, 13:35

Originally Posted by John Reid

Have you had mouthwash in your eyes? I hink I may prefer OC to Listerine.

LOL, thank God, no. Maybe I should chosen my words more carefully. Maybe I should start carrying Listerine ... :D

**Yellowfever** · 22-04-2015, 14:39

I'm following this. I see it as part of a layer and for lessor situations like road rage. Yes it can still be assault. But beter than flashing a 9mm in traffic when dickhead gets out the car.

**Tweety** · 22-04-2015, 14:50

Originally Posted by Toxxyc

I dislike videos with commentary like the last line he said. "I actually fell over, I couldn't stand up." NOT a good thing to say when there are quite a few people who consider pepper spray as an actual self-defense tool when guns are required.

Yes, and firearms require a very specific set of rules and a particular mindset. You cannot use your firearm because a drunk is trying to grab your shopping out of a your trolley or something.

I have used pepper spray in a situation with Multiple aggressive pumped up individuals and it saved me, and made them back off and become quite useless. ( and it was german KO which is OC).

It is good for ladies who don't want to EDC, and makes for an excellent device when lethal force is not required.

Such as drunk pests, street level thugs etc.

It makes for an excellent in betweener, so to speak.

We always tell people to have a plan and the correct mindset. My wife carries OC, and has a plan and the mindset. at this stage, I am grateful to her for doing so.