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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    WZ, I too was referring to the FCA in its current ratified form, including Act 28 of 2006 which made the changes I referred to.
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    Okay – from a terminology perspective we should then talk about "the FCA, as amended" and "the prospective amendments".

    The position under the FCA, as amended, has been outlined quite clearly above. It is not a model of clarity but the intention appears to be that (a) a competency remains valid in respect of those firearms licensed under that competency prior to the expiry date of that competency; (b) once the expiry date of that competency has been reached, no further firearms can be licensed under that competency and you need to obtain a new competency in order to licence further firearms. This is also how I understand the SAPS to give effect to the competency and licensing system. That is, leaving aside the guys within the system who do not really understand what is going on.

    My understanding is that the prospective amendments will make the position clearer and are intended to remove the ambiguities and uncertainties in that regard.
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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    Would the renewal of competency take the same process, and therefore time, as getting the initial competency?

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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Proudprado View Post
    Would the renewal of competency take the same process, and therefore time, as getting the initial competency?
    Given the unmitigated administrative disaster at Faulty Towers I would imagine so... although all that is required is a brief glance at your criminal record to make sure you haven't become disqualified in the interim.
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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    So assuming you have several S16 firearms on an expiring/expired competency, you would only need to renew the competency at the same time as renewing the earliest of those licenses UNLESS you also had a S13 license against the competency obviously requiring earlier competency renewal OR you wanted to license an additional firearm after the expiry date.

    Makes sense to me to just keep it renewed. But I like impulsive retail decisions

    That way they can take their time on the new competency app and you'll have a valid one come license renewal time, without adding competency renewal time to the mix.
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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    Ok so as I feared I have now become a victim of this. My DFO called me and said that my new handgun app cannot be captured as my handgun comp has expired on CFR's system. I had discussed the issue with him earlier and we were both of the opinion that my competency would still be valid for the remainder of the validity of my sec. 16 handgun licence, which only expires in 2021. However, it seems that his hands are tied, as the capturing system won't accept my "expired" competency.

    So either CFR has just screwed up with my info, or they are now implementing this interpretation of the law where one cannot apply for a new licence with a comp that is more than 5 years old (if I'm understanding WZ correctly).

    Anyway, I have now handed it over to GOSA. Seems I will not be getting my 26 this year : (

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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    To add confusion: So it seems that if you did your handgun competency by itself, and took too long after that to do shotgun, manual and self-loading rifle competency, they decide that the handgun competency expires after 5 years. If you did handgun/shotgun or rifle together or within a certain period of time you are good to go for 10 years. It makes no sense...

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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    Even more confusing, per my post above my comp was invalid after 5 years on their system. Today by magic my comp is valid again. How even?

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    Default Re: Just had a call from my DFO regaring my SEC13 renewal...

    Hi all

    I have been reading a few posts on this subject. I have a competency for a S13 Handgun, issued in 2010, which seems like it expired in 2015. What is the process for me to renew it now that it has expired?

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    I’m not sure if this would be the right thread to post this kind of a question... People aren’t really gonna take notice of it. Maybe move it to general discussions or under a topic with a more appropriate name. Also, I think there are already some threads in this. I may be wrong, but you can just reapply for your competency through your DFO with your old Conpetency Certificate from the gun store.

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