308 511m headshot wildebeest.

**Daniel55** · 07-07-2016, 14:54

Came across this on facebook today,
308
511m
155gr Amax
12mph crosswind

**pre 64** · 07-07-2016, 15:13

Daniel55.......all i can say is that this leaves me stone cold. this is not hunting by any stretch of the imagination. a shot,let alone a head shot,at an animal at this distance is irresponsible. for one the head of an animal is the most mobile part ......constantly moving,and with a bullet flight time of over half a second,there is no way of knowing if that animal would move before the bullet got there. it just sickens me that these people call themselves hunters and actually post shit like this on social media. it gives the totally wrong impression of what hunting is about. i will take a bet that for every successfull shot taken at over 500m there is a equal amount of f**k ups. if these people get their jollies out of doing this then keep it the f**k to yourself.

**Finkelstein** · 07-07-2016, 15:26

Pre-64, totally agree with you. To try a headshot at 500meters is irresponsible. Can this so called hunter and PH repeatably hit a tennis bal size target at that distance? If not, they should have kept this to themselves.
Go shoot Bisley-F class if you want to proof yourself.
If it was on my farm, I would have chased them away.

**Theron2033** · 07-07-2016, 15:57

Originally Posted by pre 64

Daniel55.......all i can say is that this leaves me stone cold. this is not hunting by any stretch of the imagination. a shot,let alone a head shot,at an animal at this distance is irresponsible. for one the head of an animal is the most mobile part ......constantly moving,and with a bullet flight time of over half a second,there is no way of knowing if that animal would move before the bullet got there. it just sickens me that these people call themselves hunters and actually post shit like this on social media. it gives the totally wrong impression of what hunting is about. i will take a bet that for every successfull shot taken at over 500m there is a equal amount of f**k ups. if these people get their jollies out of doing this then keep it the f**k to yourself.

I don't think you quite understand what long range hunting is. This is a different ball game to any other type of hunting. Far far from the traditional.
IMO this is not at all irresponsible. This isn't Kentucky windage, remember; this is practical, calculated, practiced. Just like 'traditional' hunting.

My longest kill is only 470m, but I know that I am capable of making consistent hits out to 720m. I have the confidence -depending on barometric pressure, wind gusts and shooting position- to shoot animals out to any distance between that.
You might argue that this isn't hunting, but it is as much 'hunting' as it is in the traditional sense; but of course different.

**nkosi** · 07-07-2016, 16:06

Originally Posted by Theron2033

I don't think you quite understand what long range hunting is. This is a different ball game to any other type of hunting. Far far from the traditional.
IMO this is not at all irresponsible. This isn't Kentucky windage, remember; this is practical, calculated, practiced. Just like 'traditional' hunting.

My longest kill is only 470m, but I know that I am capable of making consistent hits out to 720m. I have the confidence -depending on barometric pressure, wind gusts and shooting position- to shoot animals out to any distance between that.
You might argue that this isn't hunting, but it is as much 'hunting' as it is in the traditional sense; but of course different.

I doubt anyone thought that it was Kentucky windage, but even in perfect conditions, you cannot tell if, when and how much the animal will move, so hitting it in the head at those ranges takes as muchnluck as it does skill.

Do you think you could pull off headshots every time at 500m, even with no wind at animals that move? I doubt it.

Our local club has two world champion F- class shooters in it and even they can miss the x at 500m on a stationary paper target using a rest, from time to time.

**Theron2033** · 07-07-2016, 16:08

Originally Posted by nkosi

Do you think you could pull off headshots every time at 500m, even with no wind at animals that move? I doubt it.

I haven't practiced at moving targets that far so I won't attempt it at that distance. But I get what you're saying.

**gary-t** · 08-07-2016, 11:54

Originally Posted by pre 64

Daniel55.......all i can say is that this leaves me stone cold. this is not hunting by any stretch of the imagination. a shot,let alone a head shot,at an animal at this distance is irresponsible. for one the head of an animal is the most mobile part ......constantly moving,and with a bullet flight time of over half a second,there is no way of knowing if that animal would move before the bullet got there. it just sickens me that these people call themselves hunters and actually post shit like this on social media. it gives the totally wrong impression of what hunting is about. i will take a bet that for every successfull shot taken at over 500m there is a equal amount of f**k ups. if these people get their jollies out of doing this then keep it the f**k to yourself.

Well stated I agree 100%

The 2nd problem That I have are the buildings in the background. He is shooting directly towards the buildings.

There's no denying that it is good shooting. This could have been proven by shooting a gong.
Missing by 2 or 3 inches had no consequences.

**wave.jaco** · 07-07-2016, 15:15

Impressive shot! But I can't help but criticize him that he shot almost directly in the direction of an area that seems it could have people walking around there. Impressive shot, but not particularly safe...

**pre 64** · 07-07-2016, 15:16

Daniel...sorry boet....not meant to be an attack on you in any way......hope i didnt give you that impression

**Messor** · 07-07-2016, 15:42

Tis not the distance that's the problem, 500m is an easy shot for many, the platform and environmentals is the problem.

Doing it from the back of a bakkie with the wind blowing, that is the trick. I wish they could post a video of the scope drift at 500m from the back of a bakkie when the wind is blowing, all over target.

People should try it and see, doesn't matter how good you are statistically it's luck if you hit the target.

But those energy drinks(when "hunting" from a bakkie).......mmm, such massive caffeine before the shoot, mmmm, perhaps a late night before?