.357 warthog / much a shooting little a result.

**treeman** · 22-09-2016, 20:09

Pre - you know my thing was to fetch a hog out hole, gonna do it with shotgun now me thinks.

**Gert Odendaal** · 22-09-2016, 20:11

Treeman
I believe you have build a .458 Win Mag 2"...how often are you using it to hunt with? Please provide me with the link to the building process of the .458 WM 2"?

**pre 64** · 22-09-2016, 20:30

Gert...we both built one,same time on 2 actions i sourced. Treeman wrote about his on the forum and i had an article named{by Gregor Woods] as .458 istencape,by myself printed in Magnum magazine about 2 years ago.

Details of the building and load development as well as reasoning behind it are listed.I will scratch through my books and see if i can find the copy"s date issue if you interested.

**pre 64** · 22-09-2016, 20:32

Oh, the proper designation in "cartriges of the world" is the .458 2 inch american.

**treeman** · 22-09-2016, 22:49

and its my most used rifle - really a pleasure weapon in every way but distance, 220 m max, 230 m

and the exit entrance wound are on different levels.
As a bush velt weapon I can not imagine a better, Truly a under used/ sung/ utilized/ reconized weapon

**Againstthegrains** · 29-09-2016, 21:37

Originally Posted by pre 64

Oh, the proper designation in "cartriges of the world" is the .458 2 inch american.

I really enjoyed that post. Never heard of a .458 2 inch american. Is it not almost identical to a 45-70?

**treeman** · 29-09-2016, 21:46

yea - with magnum belt added.

**A-R** · 29-09-2016, 22:22

Originally Posted by treeman

yea - with magnum belt added.

Very similar to the 450 Marlin, but with a different belt whith.

**pre 64** · 30-09-2016, 11:49

All it is,is a standard .458 win mag case shortened from the standard 2.5 inches to 2 inches.No other changes.

Ballistics are the same as a 45-70 [fired out of a modern rifle such as the ruger no.1] In other words it runs at pressures and velocities higher than what can be generated safely in an old Martini Henry.

The advantage is that it feeds easily from a magazine and is accomadated in a standard lengh action bolt action rifle.Running 300gr 458 bulklets at 2350fps and 260gr bullets at just under 2500fps.Superbly accurate,gentle recoil and hard hitting.

**Gert Odendaal** · 08-10-2016, 12:58

Originally Posted by pre 64

All it is,is a standard .458 win mag case shortened from the standard 2.5 inches to 2 inches.No other changes.

Ballistics are the same as a 45-70 [fired out of a modern rifle such as the ruger no.1] In other words it runs at pressures and velocities higher than what can be generated safely in an old Martini Henry.

The advantage is that it feeds easily from a magazine and is accomadated in a standard lengh action bolt action rifle.Running 300gr 458 bulklets at 2350fps and 260gr bullets at just under 2500fps.Superbly accurate,gentle recoil and hard hitting.

How will it fare as a double rifle build? Would you recommend it to be use in a double rifle configuration? It really seems to be an excellent caliber ...