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Thread: Let's make SADPA great again
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18-02-2017, 10:20 #21
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
To those that have given up there names for nominations I commend you, for that is the only way to drive change. The fact that some positions are uncontested indicates one of two things. Either the people know:
If you work hard, and your efforts consistently go unnoticed or you never hear a “thank you” for your hard day's work — you might be have a thankless job. Thankless jobs become even more thank... less when they are unpaid, disrespected, or overworked in hard conditions. To err is human... and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.
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It is just easier to protest from the side-lines, while someone else has to do the work...
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18-02-2017, 10:22 #22
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18-02-2017, 10:24 #23
Re: Let's make SADPA great again
And there it is. No one is to be held accountable because the job is done without remuneration, along with you are not entitled to an opinion if you are not willing or able to volunteer yourself. Carry on.
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18-02-2017, 10:34 #24
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
Is there someplace where members can find info on the current issues, the nominees and how the nominees plan to address these issues? At the moment it's all just secret hush-hush politics to those of who aren't in the loop
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18-02-2017, 10:46 #25
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
Here is another aspect: It requires a mind set change.
Shooting is expensive, but there should be no reason to drive & make it even more expensive or unachievable for some.
SADPA has a cheaper membership fee structure, then some of the other sports. If I get to shoot only twice a year I don't want to pay 1000's in fees just so that I can participate.
On another level, there was a thread on entry fees for a match, and the costs vs what you get, and some argued they do not want xyz included/bundled as it has no benefit to them etc, this just indicates there are diversity in what the members need & want.
Now on club level: everyone needs COF's/ranges build, targets to shoot at, patches etc, yet after the match the remaining patches disappear, hardly anyone assists with breaking down stages etc. (Never mind building stages)
So the argument mostly raised is: I paid X entry fee, it is not my job, but that entry fee is set low to accommodate more shooters and cover patches & targets used on the day. So the easy club fix is lets increase entry fees to hire labour on the day, and then only give half the people a chance to compete on a regular basis, thus killing the sport further. FAIL. Here is the shooter solution: Get onto social media to complain, instead of asking why, or assisting. FAILED again.
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18-02-2017, 11:08 #26
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
Originally Posted by SafeAction;
Some would say every coin has two sides, while it is not incorrect stating the minimum number, most will have more.
Here is another example Exco decides on the Agenda they will hold off on commentary/questions until the end... the response to this is : it is inappropriate, does not follow protocol, or logic, questions must follow, time wasted going back.....
If you were at the last AGM, having it drag on to 12pm at night with people having to still drive home afterwards on a school night, getting the information out for everyone to have, and having questions/clarification afterwards would sound like one way to achieve better use of everyone's time. e.g. one side of the coin.
Each side of the coin has it's merits...
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18-02-2017, 15:35 #27
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18-02-2017, 15:50 #28
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18-02-2017, 15:53 #29
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
@SafeAction, the apologist views you have is exactly why we cannot turn this ship around. Your views remind me a lot of the people who do charity work and brag about it on Facebook.
The sport functions on volunteers but if the organization is broken then getting more volunteers will be tough? IDPA is currently like the ANC where they have many members but the infighting at the upper echelons of the game is slowing filtering down to the membership and people are becoming disillusioned with the organization. Its just the grassroots people and those with vested interests that will hold on to the sinking ship.
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18-02-2017, 15:56 #30
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Re: Let's make SADPA great again
With regards to "ripping off the mask", view Paul's post (at the moment, second from last, just before my post) here:
http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/show...25#post1144925
I believe debate should continue here, the linked post being in the dealer's section.
It's gone full on thermo-nuclear at the moment so this is perhaps a watershed moment for the sport. We try new things or we keep things as is and lose more SOs, clubs and members. When some of the old guard, many having invested years of effort in the game, are upset about what has become of the sport, it is time to pause and consider what you are doing, either by your actions or lack of actions.
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