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28-02-2017, 22:17 #11
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Re: SAAF - Mirage F1 History
I think from memory that South Africa was also trying to get its hands on the J79 engine which powered the Kfir as it was more powerful and efficient than the 9k50?
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01-03-2017, 05:39 #13
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SAAF - Mirage F1 History
Also keep in mind that having all the engineering drawings with all the relevant specs allowed Israel to manufacture parts to keep their ailing fleet airborne whilst developing/producing their new aircraft.
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01-03-2017, 06:39 #15
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I meant no, they didn't steal plans for the F1, but for the Mirage V.
IIRC by 1985 our initial Cheetah development was already quite a bit underway (the original upgrades were more aerodynamic than systematic) and by that time the Kfir already existed for a while. I'd thus wager we got Kfir plans from them, not just MIII plans (the MIII being rather outdated by then)
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01-03-2017, 06:44 #16
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Re: SAAF - Mirage F1 History
I could be wrong on the dates though. As for the photo on the cover it was probably a stock photo used as the book was written as a novel.
Developing any fighter would have been impossible without having those plans available. Israel did try and reverse engineer components prior to having the plans but that was disastrous.
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01-03-2017, 09:30 #17
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Pirate you are very much correct. We even had some great projects going to replace the cheetah with a twin engine jet called the Atlas Carver nicknamed CAVA. This project was sadly abandoned in the mid 90's if memory serves correctly. It was going to be a state of the art fighter which would of had more capabilities than the current Gripen fighters we bought.
Google Altas Carver / CAVA. some pretty usefull reading although not much info has been released as yet. Some images are available also. None were actually produced but one prototype was in the making but not completed.
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=157&sid=4cfaea8d48804fd93cffe9 a58f963438
and some images:
https://za.pinterest.com/grmthomson7...rver-aircraft/
For some useful info regarding the SAAF Mirage/Cheetah and other aircraft head over to the SAAF forum. There are plenty ex and current serving SAAf pilots and technicians there with very useful info. I am registered there. My uncle is in the SAAF and is qualified to fly the Oryx and the new Lynx helicopter. Withe previous Border war experience on the Wasp, Allouette 3 and Puma.
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01-03-2017, 09:41 #18
Re: SAAF - Mirage F1 History
Methinks there's stuff that Pirate knows about Atlas' aircraft projects that will make your hair stand on end.
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We came back for the closing 1 Squadron and formal dinner
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