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06-03-2017, 22:12 #1
SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
Dear SAGA Network Member,
On Friday March 3rd, SAPS issued a formal communique surrounding expired firearm licences. Pertinent to gun owners who hold the new White license in terms of the Firearms Control Act, 2000 (FCA) and who have failed for any reason to renew such licence prior to its expiry date, are these statements extracted verbatim from the SAPS communique:
"Section 27 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, provides for the period of validity of each type of licence and permit that is issued. These dates are also reflected on the licence cards, as issued by the South African Police Service (SAPS). However, in terms of section 28 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, a firearm licence terminates on the expiry of the relevant period contemplated in section 27 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, unless it is renewed in terms of section 24 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000. "
"The firearm owner has the option of selling, donating or deactivating the firearm, which must be concluded before the relevant expiry date. If an application for the renewal has been lodged before the licence has expired, the existing licence remains valid until the application has been decided."
In an apparent effort to contextualize the communique SAPS included the following:
"In a circular with reference number 27/5/2/1, dated 2016-02-03 (Renewal of firearm licences in terms of section 24 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, the following directives were given:
In the case where a person wants to renew or apply for a licence, but the validity of the licence has already expired, the person must be informed that he/she is not in lawful possession of the firearm anymore and that the firearm must be surrendered to the nearest police station.
When a firearm in respect of which the licence has expired, is voluntarily surrendered, the owner will not be prosecuted."
SAPS explains its own interpretation of the FCA and sets out a clear instruction to ‘ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE SAPS’
"It is clear that provisions were made for persons who failed to renew their firearm licences, to voluntarily surrender these firearm(s) and/or ammunition to the nearest police station, following which prosecution will not be instituted against the person."
"This position prevails and, therefore, persons who voluntarily surrender their firearms at police stations, must not be charged for the illegal possession thereof."
"However, if a police official discovers during his or her day-to-day policing activities or operations that a person is in possession of a firearm, but failed to renew his or her licence, meaning that they did not apply for the renewal of the firearm licence, the police official may institute criminal proceedings against the person for the illegal possession of a firearm in terms of section 3 of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, as follows: Section 3: No person may possess a firearm unless he or she holds a licence, permit or authorisation issued in terms of this Act for that firearm."
SAPS clarify, in their view that they are the ultimate authority in respect of the ‘implementation’ of the FCA:
"The Registrar of Firearms (National Commissioner) is ultimately responsible for the implementation of the Firearms Control Act, 2000, which includes administrative steps that are reasonable, fair and lawful."
SAGA POSITION ON THE CONTENTS AND IMPORT OF THE SAPS COMMUNIQUE
Apart from this latest and somewhat surprising position of SAPS regarding expired new White licences, SAGA is well informed on the various aspects of relevant debate in the public realm. SAGA moreover has consistently engaged with SAPS around these issues, and is also closely allied with various current High Court actions involving SAPS and organisations representing gun owners, specifically around the issue of licence renewal and related disputes. These protracted court actions are expected to be heard within the next 60 days.
SAGA does not support the view of SAPS in these instances, and more specifically cannot align itself with the approach of SAPS as per this latest communique.
However, the advice of SAGA to all affected gun owners in the interim, is that if you are placed in a position where you are found in possession of a firearm which White licence has expired, is to co-operate with the SAPS or any other lawful authority if instructed to hand the firearm over, and not to interfere with their duties.
If any gun owner is instructed to hand over a firearm affected by the latest SAPS communique, please note that there is a standard letter available from SAGA which we suggest should be completed and applied at the time of handover of the firearm to the relevant authority. The letter will make it easy for gun owners to insert their own details and those of the gun(s) in question and also formally reserve any rights that you may have as a gun owner.
SAGA is on an urgent basis considering various legal options, and further updates on this critical issue will be forthcoming. SAGA members are invited to contact our offices via email for specific queries in this regard.
Issued: Monday 5 March 2017 at 9:15am
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06-03-2017, 23:08 #2
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Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
This just before a well timed amnesty...
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06-03-2017, 23:49 #3
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Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
Am I reading a rare positive development in the above - among all the other negative aspects thereof?
I quote:
"If an application for the renewal has been lodged before the licence has expired, the existing licence remains valid until the application has been decided."
Does this mean that the requirement to submit your renewal application earlier than 90 days prior to expiry no longer applies? If so, that is at least a small relaxation of their recent heavy handed approach on the matter.
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07-03-2017, 06:38 #4
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07-03-2017, 06:43 #5
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Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
The quoted bit says that if you submit it prior to expiry, the license remains valid until the application is decided. It doean't say that is only the case if you submit 90 days or more prior to the expiry date.
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07-03-2017, 06:51 #6
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07-03-2017, 07:24 #7
Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
/cynicism switch on/ No, what it really means is that you have to comply with timelines but the SAPS can take as long they want to get around to dealing with matters.
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07-03-2017, 07:29 #8
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07-03-2017, 07:48 #9
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Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
Between this, the amnesty and other statements by various DFO's I am starting to believe the conspiracy theorists.
The other bit that concerns me about the above Newsflash is that it turns ordinary law abiding citizens who fail to renew their firearm licence into possible criminals. Surely this can be considered an administrative oversight on the part of the individual, not criminal in intent or action?
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07-03-2017, 08:14 #10
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Re: SAGA Newsflash: Expired Licences
They are trying to coerce people into surrendering their firearms voluntarily before the April court case even starts. The supposed promise to not prosecute anyone who complies with their demands is deceitful: the SAPS doesn't decide whether or not to prosecute, the NPA does that. This is pure intimidation. Will firearm owners have the spine they say they do? Hmmm...
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