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22-04-2017, 20:18 #21
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Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
It would not have been OK if they stated that people with dreadlock hair or an advanced martial arts traing background were not allowed.
That would have been unconstitutional and they may have been subjected to receive penalties imposed upon them by the HRC.
How can this then be constitutional if you exercise your right to life by carrying your licensed EDC?
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22-04-2017, 21:09 #22
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22-04-2017, 21:26 #23
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Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
As was already said, it all come down to the owner's right to allow you on his property or not. So if you smoke, carry or do whatever offends him, he has the right to deny you entry, or ask you to leave. Failing to comply could lead to you being arrested and charged for trespassing, and any illegal objects can be confiscated, to be handed to the police. (Not quite forfeiture, that implies the owner takes possession as his own property.) Legally posessed objects, like your licensed FA, do not fall in this category. At least that is how I understand it at this point in time...
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22-04-2017, 22:00 #24
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Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
It is really simple, don't support these establishments.
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22-04-2017, 22:11 #25
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Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
Not to quote the entire Schedule 1 list
"Schedule 1
(Sections 40 and 42)
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Any offence, except the offence of escaping from lawful custody in circumstances otherthan the circumstances referred to immediately hereunder, the punishment wherefor may be a period of imprisonment exceeding six months without the option of a fine."
Now the real answer lies in the penalty clause of the Trespassing act....
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23-04-2017, 07:30 #26
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23-04-2017, 07:42 #27
Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
So, while in theory it *might* amount to a trespass, they certainly may not arrest you themselves. And were someone to call the SAPS it seems unlikely, that were they to show any interest at all, they would do anything other than check your license and tell you to leave. It's probably also unlikely that the owner of the premises would call the SAPS unless you refused to leave when asked to do so.
Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est.
Seneca (4 BC - 65 AD)
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23-04-2017, 07:56 #28
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Re: WZ's argument on non-gazetted FA-free zones
SSP Most of the offences in Schedule 1 has an option of a fine but do have the direct imprisonment exceeding 6 months.
WZ i've seen plenty of people in police cells arrested (by police) for trespassing.
I however agree that the police would not be so helpful in above circumstances.
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23-04-2017, 08:14 #29
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23-04-2017, 08:15 #30
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