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    Default Re: Carry Optics / Standard

    Production gun list with OEM or dovetail mount. Remove the 5lb trigger limit and allow any internal mods and i'd move divisions tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    The discussion I saw said no slide milling. Only factory optic cut guns MOS / CORE etc. Or you could use a rear sight dovetail mount. I think plastic only is a good idea if they keep the annoying 5lb first shot trigger rule. Stops it becoming another Shadow/Tanfo division.
    How long before CZ make a polymer-framed Shadow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acajou View Post
    How long before CZ make a polymer-framed Shadow?
    They kinda did. With the Phantom.

    But you see then it won't weigh the same as a small passenger vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT View Post
    They kinda did. With the Phantom.

    But you see then it won't weigh the same as a small passenger vehicle.
    True. But I'm sure as soon as the rules are set, someone will make a gun that's just about at the limits, IOW the Carry Optics Shadow. Unless IPSC HQ go the IDPA route and make the rules around an existing gun...

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    but why does it need to be around polymer guns? Whats wrong if its a shadow with a optic? Are we making divisions where certain guns can shine or divisions that are different and the best will shine :D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phant1m View Post
    but why does it need to be around polymer guns? Whats wrong if its a shadow with a optic? Are we making divisions where certain guns can shine or divisions that are different and the best will shine :D.

    Same reason we have divisions at all.

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    I can kinda see why they want to make it a polymer division. Especially if it's called "carry optics".
    Would be nice for the G19 P07 size guns to have a division where they can seriously compete.
    I wonder if you would be allowed to shoot in this division with irons? Could get interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acajou View Post
    How long before CZ make a polymer-framed Shadow?
    Apparently they brought out an updated version of the Phantom(not a Shadow but the option is there for CZ):
    http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-sp-0...m-2017-update/

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    Things aren't looking too good for PO judging by the Global Village thread. I hope sense prevails and they find a way to make PO work without killing PD...

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