P2CC in IPSC rifle div?

**Bimini** · 19-05-2017, 22:19

Is it possible or legal to shoot a P2CC in ipsc rifle div? Anyone do it?

I guess that 9mm is out due to the 150 power factor. So probably major guns only?

Why don't they make a division for carbine conversions? Should be a lot of fun.

**Acajou** · 20-05-2017, 09:33

Isn't the minimum calibre .223?

**SSP** · 20-05-2017, 09:36

Originally Posted by Acajou

Isn't the minimum calibre .223?

If that is how the rules are worded then anything with a 9mm calibre is good to go.

**Acajou** · 20-05-2017, 09:54

Correction. There is no minimum calibre. But as you said, 150 pf will be tough in a handgun though

**Bimini** · 20-05-2017, 14:04

Originally Posted by Acajou

Correction. There is no minimum calibre. But as you said, 150 pf will be tough in a handgun though

No problem with a major handgun.

**willehond** · 22-05-2017, 12:47

Big IPSC rifle matches with plates at 250m will be tough going.

**Zuku** · 22-05-2017, 15:35

The original intent for minimum calibre was based on popular rifle rounds in the early 80's and not handgun rounds. So no 9mm submachine guns.

**BigT** · 22-05-2017, 16:08

Originally Posted by Zuku

The original intent for minimum calibre was based on popular rifle rounds in the early 80's and not handgun rounds. So no 9mm submachine guns.

The rules aren't written like that though

If you can push a 147 9mm at 1020 you make factor and ergo are good to go.

**Psychosis** · 23-05-2017, 10:55

Originally Posted by Zuku

The original intent for minimum calibre was based on popular rifle rounds in the early 80's and not handgun rounds. So no 9mm submachine guns.

Official agreement from the rifle rules director on IPSC Global Village that pistol calibers are in fact legal for rifle matches, as long as it makes the required factor. I asked this exact question there.

Mention was made about the competitor being at a huge disadvantage over long distances, as the other guys have pointed out.

No mention of 'intent' anywhere, either in the rules, or on that thread. So no idea how you are able to read peoples minds on the matter.

Pistol carbines and or carbine conversion kits are a great way to get the people interested in the rifle side of IPSC, and works well at many club level matches... where most ranges do not exceed 50m.