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    Default Re: INFRARED SPECTROSCOPY OF FIRECLEAN AND CRISCO OILS

    This discussion continues from this thread: http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/show...CO-OILS/page15

    I have below copied over some of the posts on the previous thread referred to above. This will hopefully make it easier to follow the general train of the discussion.



    Quote Originally Posted by Skaaphaas View Post
    At Finnish temperatures? I think some we use may actually do that.
    Fair point but even so, it should not happen unless you are storing your guns outdoors… But AK-gunner's note leads me to understand that it is not a temperature -related issue he is referring to but rather a product related issue. I could be wrong though – perhaps he will clarify.

    Interestingly, during World War II on the Eastern front, the Germans often fired their machine guns at regular intervals in order to keep them from freezing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaaphaas View Post
    At Finnish temperatures? I think some we use may actually do that.
    Froglube was advertised to do just that wasn't it? Be gunky to not run off important parts during storage and to melt and slide during use?

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    But not so as to stop the gun working... One hopes.

    Thixotropuc grease is sold in 20 litre buckets. Its a grease but turns into an oil under pressure. There's an existing automotive or industrial lubricant for every application you can possibly think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderin' Zero View Post
    But AK-gunner's note leads me to understand that it is not a temperature -related issue he is referring to but rather a product related issue.
    Correct. The guns were stored in a safe in room temperature. I've heard from multiple sources that Fireclean doesn't work as a preservative for its tendency to gunk up the gun. About Froglube: if you see gunks of it, you've applied too much. Haven't tried Froglube, but there was a short initial hype but the product is now mysteriously disappeared from the shelves...

    The reason Germans fired their weapons was condensation which would've frozen the guns up unless you kept their parts moving. Not so much a lubrication issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messor View Post
    Why?
    Good design, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaaphaas View Post
    Good design, I suppose.
    Not design.

    I am talking about the concept, and our general perception towards lubes.

    Why do we keep changing stuff that works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messor View Post
    Which is what?

    Meaning composition.
    It's actually a soap - chemically speaking.

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    Default Re: INFRARED SPECTROSCOPY OF FIRECLEAN AND CRISCO OILS

    Oh. It was mostly a thing of lubing with whatever was the closest at hand at the moment.

    I got a complimentary bottle of Fireclean so wanted to see what the hype was about.

    The vaseline was because I read about it and wanted to see if it really does work, for in case there is nothing else one day. More of a "okay so I've tried that" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-Gunner View Post
    The reason Germans fired their weapons was condensation which would've frozen the guns up unless you kept their parts moving. Not so much a lubrication issue.
    Could be. I'll have to check the literature again. Probably a combination of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet View Post
    It's actually a soap - chemically speaking.

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    Nope it's an un-saponified oil.
    That does not soap make.
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