Chiappa M1 Carbine in 9mmP

**Ds J** · 08-07-2017, 11:48

Shootingstuff has a 9mm carbine from Chiappa for sale. It is basically a copy of the M1 Carbine.

https://www.shootingstuff.co.za/firearms/rifles-and-carbines/chiappa-m1-synthetic-9x19-semi-auto-18-rifle.html

Does anyone have experience with this rifle?

**drie57** · 08-07-2017, 13:23

Only heavy drooling experience Doom.

**Ds J** · 08-07-2017, 14:43

I know the feeling. The M1 carbine has had my attention for quite some time but the relative scarcity of cases makes it troublesome. Now they have the same platform in a common calibre with Beretta 92 magazines. Skoon stout!

**Kayback** · 08-07-2017, 14:48

Read some of the international reviews.

**Ds J** · 08-07-2017, 14:52

Will do, thanks.

**CorditeCrazy** · 08-07-2017, 15:12

The reviews don't seem great.

DsJ rather save an extra couple of bob and you can get one of those SAR 9mm carbines from DSG. They seem to run like sowing machines.

**Ds J** · 08-07-2017, 15:58

A carbine/semi competency at first, and maybe at a later time the carbine. Somehow the idea of two guns in one caliber sound really attractive.

Girls like diamonds and pearls, I like guns and knives.

**Lian** · 08-07-2017, 16:29

If you're into the Garand / Carbine / Mini14 look... and 9mm... it's actually quite damn cool.

**Ds J** · 08-07-2017, 19:12

How it looks does not matter that much. Whether it works well is quite important. I simply would like a longer barrel to get as much as possible out of the 9mm cartridge without paying the price of two or three new pistols for it. Currently everything is very theoretical.

**Minerva10210** · 08-07-2017, 20:27

Yeah, that is quite compelling.

I did some scratching around in Quickload now as well, also just being very theoretical about it.

Seeing as I don't have S121 in Quickload, I compared MS200/MP200 and S221 - max theoretical loads (so please don't use them, this is just for indications) give me the following results using Frontier 124gr RN bullets

MS200
4" - 1105fps
18" - 1362fps

Mp200
4" - 1116fps
18" - 1388fps

S221
4" - 1129fps
18" - 1447fps

So, one would probably want a load that will work interchangeably, but I find the speeds quite interesting. Also, the price vs an entry level 223 AR makes it interesting indeed...