I have an Army and Navy 20 bore with 28 inch barrels and weighs in at 5,5 pounds. Points like a dream, great to carry all day and awesome to shoot. Don't think I'll be taking my 12 bores out for a long time. As for ammo, I got 21 and 25 gram loads from Entramarc in JHB at a very good price. My gun also has 65mm chambers and all the ammo I got from Entramarc was 65mm. I just wish I had bought the 20 a long time ago. Enjoy shooting yours Gert