Integrally suppressed AR's, specifically the DD M4 ISR

**uBestRi** · 12-08-2017, 10:00

What can you tell me about an integrally suppressed AR?
Are they a bitch to clean, are they high maintenance etc?
Will I struggle to find ammo to cycle it?

Perhaps Deon would know more about this specific model:
https://danieldefense.com/firearms/c...fense-isr.html

**Wild coast** · 12-08-2017, 14:48

Are you moving to the states?

serious question

**uBestRi** · 12-08-2017, 19:49

Originally Posted by Wild coast

Are you moving to the states?

serious question

No immediate plans to move.
Why do you ask?

**Wild coast** · 12-08-2017, 20:08

Originally Posted by uBestRi

No immediate plans to move.
Why do you ask?

As neilh says these rifles can't leave America, so I thought maybe you had plans to move across the pond

**StanCT** · 12-08-2017, 14:52

UBestRi, I'm still quite uneducated in this area, but can tell you what I know:

I was lusting after the DD M4 ISR for ages, but for the price, and apparently the difficulty in obtaining in SA.

I opted instead for http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/speci...ackout_kmr.php

then to be most likely retro-fitted with the following suppressor:

http://www.aseutra.fi/s-series-sl8i-...blk-suppressor

and there's quite a bit discussed in the following thread that should answer your questions:

http://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/show...ut-bende/page8

**Wild coast** · 12-08-2017, 14:58

Stan got it right! City Guns tried to bring these in some years ago. They made quite a few people excited about it. It never happened due to US restrictions if my memory serves me!

**neilh** · 12-08-2017, 15:34

US only

i've asked, that rifle specifically

**uBestRi** · 12-08-2017, 19:50

Thanks everyone, that is very sad.
StanCT thanks for the links, I'll check them out.

**uBestRi** · 12-08-2017, 20:09

It's a tragedy that we can't get them here. I was all set.

**Wild coast** · 13-08-2017, 15:57

Originally Posted by uBestRi

It's a tragedy that we can't get them here. I was all set.

This rifle was intended for the US market to circumvent tax stamp requirements! A supressed SBR in the US would usually require 2 x $200 tax stamps, one for the Short length and one for the suppressor. Tax stamps take one year to obtain! If you permanently attach the suppressor to the barrel it is no longer a short barrel rifle. Now you only need one tax stamp for the suppressor.

At least that is how I understand it!

Personally I wouldn't want a permanently attached suppressor unless it is to save $200 and a lot of admin!