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30-11-2017, 06:50 #11
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30-11-2017, 09:22 #12
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
Is that realistically viable? Is that time better spent on other action?
We sometimes like to picture things going down in a certain way. Reality very rarely cooperates.
Realistically if I am moving through my house my pistol is probably the better tool.
Yes a long gun has advantages and is a great tool. But in the really real world my pistol is likely going to be the available tool and as a result the one I use.
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30-11-2017, 09:51 #13
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
Bravo Daniel!
The gun that is on you will be the one you use for SD 99% of the time.
Handgun for most of us.
Farmers that generally use a "bakkie rifle" daily for tasks on the farm need to look at how that rifle can be applied for SD. Think scout rifle. They generally shoot the Bakkie rifle better than their handguns due to low levels of practice. The bakkie rifle also makes them less of a target: criminals want SLR's to perpetrate crime, they don't look at a bolt gun as a viable weapon for criminal activity. 308 or 303 are more effective one shot stoppers than .223 or handgun.
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30-11-2017, 10:58 #14
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
looking at a rifle licensed specifically for SD, i doubt anyone would license a bolt for that purpose
mind you i think the ruger gunsite scout looks amazing, but the same can be achieved with a howa 1500 with detachable magazine
still a very good platform, but against multiple attackers with semi autos? prob not as they would now have an advantage with fire rate
not every shot is a hit, i'd like to increase my chances :)Last edited by Wanderin' Zero; 30-11-2017 at 11:46.
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30-11-2017, 14:21 #15
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
Gazzamak.
The point being: If the SLR is in the safe, that is where your increased chances lie, in the safe.
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30-11-2017, 14:43 #16
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
"Always remember to pillage before you burn"
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30-11-2017, 15:12 #17
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
Dont overlook the lever actions as bakkie or HD rifles.They are short and manoeuverable and in muzzle energy terms the old 30-30 is ahead of the 5.56 and 7.62 x 39 rounds and soft nose to boot.Individual rounds can be loaded on the fly without removing magazines or opening bolts.You can pump rounds out of it whilst at the shoulder faster than a bolt action.If we are talking 357 or 44 magnum the velocity from a 20 inch barrel puts the wheelies to shame.From a public perspective they are just old cowboy guns and nothing like "assault" rifles. Much better image. You can probably own them in California without any hassles. Think about it. A Winchester Mod 94 Trapper in 44 mag and an 18 inch barrel would work very nicely.
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30-11-2017, 15:22 #18
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
Handgun handgun handgun.
Murphy is a son of a bitch. You will need your gun when your long gun is out of reach.
Attackers on farms are not random they watch from the shadows and wil strike when that long gun is out of reach. A handgun never needs to be out of reach a long gun almost allways will be. Even when that long gun is 5m away it might as well be a km away.
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30-11-2017, 15:49 #19
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
"Always remember to pillage before you burn"
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30-11-2017, 18:52 #20
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Re: The reality of an SLR for SD in South Africa.
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