Have you got a M+P9c and an Olight wml?

**Armed Preacher** · 05-12-2017, 06:59

Originally Posted by Ghost

The PL2 steps down from a brilliant 1200 lm to a still very useful 600 lm. The Mini steps down from an okay 400 lm to an anemic 60 lm.

Candela is also something to consider - 13800 for the PL2 vs. 1400 for the Mini. The PL2 will throw MUCH further than the Mini.

Have a look at https://olightsa.co.za/flashlights/1...35m-throw.html and https://olightsa.co.za/flashlights/1...540911054.html. A lot of reviews of YouTube of both lights.

I went for the PL2 over the Mini for these reasons mainly. The light is attached to my G17.

When you look at output graphs you see a definite stroke down with the PL-2; 1200 down to 600 (still brighter than some wml’s at more than double the price) where’s the mini has a slight step then gradually drops down over time. Neither of these should be a problem when used correctly as wml’s, the light is only used for short durations, if you’re searching for something then a handheld would be more suitable.
The PL-2 is definitely the light of choice but if you plan on EDCing your compact pistol with a light then you may as well carry the bigger pistol along with the PL-2 or use the mini with your compact fa.

https://s20.postimg.org/nzdpml759/Ch...me-_Lumens.png

**BadBoyTazz4Ever** · 06-12-2017, 21:01

Originally Posted by Trayton

Id like to see the Valkyrie PL-2 and mini on the 9c if that's at all possible?

There is a massive difference in lumen output and because of that silly #allthelumens i'm inclined to believe i need the bigger wml out on the farm. there are many more dark places than in town.

Help a brother out, google fu showed me nothing. wondering how far past the muzzle that PL-2 is going to stick out.

9C Check, also looking at Valkyrie PL-2. Just need to find the time to visit the store. Going to try for Friday afternoon.

I'll snap some pics and upload if nobody beats me too it.

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**Trayton** · 06-12-2017, 21:55

Don't bother, the valkyrie lights don't fit the compact rail. Tried a mini today. My heart breaks.

**BadBoyTazz4Ever** · 07-12-2017, 02:50

Originally Posted by Trayton

Don't bother, the valkyrie lights don't fit the compact rail. Tried a mini today. My heart breaks.

Rescomp has a light that fits the 9c
http://www.rhtechnologies.co.za/pSTR...ght-TLR-4.aspx

Fitted to a 9c
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...eXlbYqAxVsDHLg

If the image link doesn't work link to page with image on it:
http://www.armslist.com/posts/356506...eamlight-tlr-4

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**BadBoyTazz4Ever** · 07-12-2017, 05:45

Amazon still has the Streamlight TLR-3

It doesn't have the laser so a bit mor compact but Amazon has a thing with shipping electronics to ZA lately, so can't send it directly to ZA, maybe MyUS or if ou have a friend in the USA that can forward it on. It's alos 1/2 the price on Amazon the the TLR-4 mentioned above so with shipping and import you should break even or get off a bit cheaper.

It's the only light models i have found that i know fits the 9c, was hoping the Olight PL-Mini Valkeyrie at Brothers Arms would fit as it's a bit more in my price range.

Edit:
I don't know these guys but i see Tactical Distributors SA show they have the TRL-3 for R2,250 address shows as Boksburg so maybe a visit rather than online order...

**Armed Preacher** · 07-12-2017, 06:08

Jizni have a compact Viridian WML that does fit, ask Boerboel on the forum to drop you a pic.

**Trayton** · 07-12-2017, 07:00

Tazz iirc that tactical distributors was one of those dodgy dealers that reincarnated. As far as the viridian goes I recall it being a tad low on power. If I'm going to carry a wml, I want the sun. Thinking of changing the gun to get the 1200lumens PL-2. I have wondered if one can't buy a rail extension device. I can't see it adding too much bulk.

**BadBoyTazz4Ever** · 07-12-2017, 07:13

Originally Posted by Trayton

Tazz iirc that tactical distributors was one of those dodgy dealers that reincarnated.

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Ahhh then a physical visit my be a better idea than online order as you would at least already have they product in hand if the same should happen.

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As far as the viridian goes I recall it being a tad low on power.
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Viridian is 100lumens

Originally Posted by Trayton

... If I'm going to carry a wml, I want the sun. Thinking if changing the gun tons chocolate the 1200lumens PL-2

Nope then i would rather just buy a decent hand held flashlight for 1/2 the price than a 1200lumens Weapon mounted light and learn to shoot with it. I prefer it that way round but i do see the use in having a weapon mounted light hence me keeping a eye out for something.

I'm going to visit Brothers Arms and take a look at the Olight PL-Mini Valkeyrie maybe i small mod can make it fit. It can't be too far off.

**Trayton** · 07-12-2017, 15:33

Originally Posted by BadBoyTazz4Ever

Ahhh then a physical visit my be a better idea than online order as you would at least already have they product in hand if the same should happen.Viridian is 100lumens Nope then i would rather just buy a decent hand held flashlight for 1/2 the price than a 1200lumens Weapon mounted light and learn to shoot with it. I prefer it that way round but i do see the use in having a weapon mounted light hence me keeping a eye out for something.I'm going to visit Brothers Arms and take a look at the Olight PL-Mini Valkeyrie maybe i small mod can make it fit. It can't be too far off.

I have the Olight M1Xstriker as my edc torch, which ive done training with etc. We put so much emphasis on putting a WML on our long guns and tacticooling them up and dont do the same with our pistols. Its easy enough to use your support hand to hold a flashlight,when you need that same support hand for other things is when a wml with click on comes into its own.

**BadBoyTazz4Ever** · 07-12-2017, 16:04

Long guns are a different game as you tend to need both hand to shoot / hold them so a wml is kinda a must.

Originally Posted by Trayton

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Its easy enough to use your support hand to hold a flashlight,when you need that same support hand for other things is when a wml with click on comes into its own.

Hense me saying i see the value of a wml and i am keeping a eye out for one. But spending R3k on wml that puts out 1200lumens when i can buy a 900lumens flashlight for R1400 the maths speaks for itself.

The Olight PL-Mini Valkeyrie is perfect price range and the 400lumens is nothing to shun. The 125 of the TLR-3 might be a bit low but still better than nothing or trying to bite a flashlight between your teeth while trying to carry / drag someone and shooting.

It is unfortunately a compromise game and in my edc size is the biggest factor as i can not be made. So i compromise on tacti-cool accessorizing ability.

If i could find a SHIELD when i bought my 9c i would have probably had a SHIELD but they where hens teeth back then and the 9c was a serious special for the time.