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Thread: Licensing a barrel.
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22-05-2019, 17:18 #21
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
As far as i have it, an unchambered barrel has a code on the CFR system, so it should be registered as 6.5mm barrel. You can apply for a licence and store it yourself, or store with gunsmith.
You then apply to use barrel to rebarrel existing firearm plus minus calibre change or to build new rifle. There are forms to complete at each stage, plus reports from the gunsmith. After work is completed, you apply for changes to you existing licence if rebarreling or new licence for new rifle build.
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22-05-2019, 18:42 #22
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
My understanding is that the rifled barrel is more of a controlled item than the chamber. Reasoning is that anyone can cut a chamber if the have a reamer, but very few folk can rifle a barrel. A piece of metal with a hole in it is just that, but a rifled barrel is a weapon barrel. And a piece of metal with a hole no rifleing and a chamber cut is a unrifled weapon barrel . soooooooooooooooooooo ????? where does this leave us ?????
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22-05-2019, 19:49 #23
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
Keep in mind this process involves a few different applications to enable you to build the rifle , after you applied for making changes to a rifle, for example even if you shorten your barrel, you need to apply /submitting a application to enable you ( if you have a gunsmith competency) to do it, a lot of documentation but if you really want to build a rifle /get a gunsmith to do it , it can be done as pointed out by the previous members.
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22-05-2019, 21:36 #24
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
We have had to license guns since about 50 years ago, maybe more. Happened before I knew anything. Anyway, the powers-that-be were, and still are, of the opinion that you can trace any fired bullet back to the barrel that it was fired from. Everyone, including the courts were convinced of the "science" of "ballistic fingerprinting" and ballistic traceability, hence the barrel was used as the primary part defining a fire arm. Then Dr. David Klatzow published his book on the subject, wiping all notions of this being a science off the table conclusively. However, our guns are still legally defined by their barrels.
More recently, some ranking official in our Central Firearms Registry (CFR) has decided to refuse all applications for barrel replacements. All on his own, with no legal reasons. Lots of guys with shot-out barrels seem to be stuck with them untill this is sorted out, probably by another hugely expensive supreme court case. All of these shenanigans are just thinly disguised attempts to get rid of our guns.
All of the above was made possible by the fact that our guns need to be licensed. Make very, VERY sure you never get there!
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22-05-2019, 22:31 #25
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
Thank you for clarifying that. I was under the assumption that all firearms were classified by receiver serial numbers. I see now that my assumption was erroneous. In that case, I apologize for my original statement but stand by my "nails in the coffin" comments.
As a popular saying goes: "An armed person is a citizen, a disarmed person is a subject."
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22-05-2019, 23:53 #26
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23-05-2019, 11:02 #27
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
An airgun and a muzzle loader can both have rifling in their barrels. If I buy a barrel which is unchambered, then it has not yet acquired a calibre. At this stage it cannot be classified as firing or being intended to fire a pinfire, rimfire or centrefire cartridge. It may well be barrelled to 6.5mm dimensions but it has not yet reached the point where it can fit the definition of being a barrel "OF A FIREARM".
Seems to me to be another CFR made law which has no legal foundation
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23-05-2019, 11:28 #28
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23-05-2019, 19:42 #29
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17-07-2019, 11:46 #30
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Re: Licensing a barrel.
Just noticed this comment of Gert Odendaal in his 6.5x68S thread
Re: Rifle barrels that will withstand a barrel burner caliber - 6.5X68S
Good, I just paid for the Shilen barrel, Magnum sportster profile, 28"inch long, 1:8 rifling twist, crown cut, no thread cut and chamber short cut 0.002" ..a friend will bring me this rifle blank since it is not considered a rifle barrel in the USA..only a pipe with 6.5 caliber rifling twist..
Costs: $214 or R3093..not too shabby ???? Messor, now I am planning again.
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