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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    Members here is a link to more info regarding this rifle ..
    http://www.germanguns.com/upload/sho...AENEL-10-75x68

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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    Members, it seems it is not a black powder rifle ..I will use it to hunt with smokeless powder..I now need to look for another 1884 era black powder rifle in an original condition...

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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    These are the rounds this rifle is suppose to shoot with.
    http://www.cartridgecollector.net/1075-x-68-mauser

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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    Members, I still am not sure what make this rifle is and by whom it was manufacture . Here is an answer from Axel Eichendorff from Germany, a member I got to know on another forum..a serious collector of all German rifles...I am sure I will get the correct information from Axel.
    'Hello Gert,That rifle is neither a Haenel M1900 nor M1909. Here are two photos of such rifles. Top M1900 high grade, M1909 basic grade below. where is the Haenel name on that rrifle, barrel or receiver ring? Your photo has not enough resolution to positively identify the rifle. Apparently it is a single shot, built on an 88 action. Such conversions from repeater to single shot were sometimes done by individual gunsmithes to use cartridges that would not work through the M88 magazine and en-bloc clip. The 10.75x63 is one such cartridge, as it is too fat. I have seen two such conversions to 9.3x72R, f.i.
    Please, send photos of all marks and of the action details and try to verify the caliber.
    If it is a 10.75x63 indeed, I can provide more info on that forgotten cartridge, as I have a Mauser barreled action, stocked by myself, see photos.It is essentially a short necked 10.75x68, loaded originally with 3.8 g = 58.6 gr R5 powder, a 22.5 g = 347 gr jacketed bullet to 650 m/s = 2130 fps, 20 m/s less than the x68.
    Waidmannsheil!
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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    Members, Johan Greyling solved the the question regarding what rifle this is and what caliber it is ..it is a single shot 11 mm Mauser Black powder rifle....here is the history about this rifle and I will upload photos of the round it shoots...I loaded the round I got from Johan Greyling today and it fits beautifully in the chamber.. I am glad since the brass and ammo is available ...

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    History on the Mauser 71 /11mm/11.15x 60 ,
    The Mauser Model 1871adopted as the Gewehr 71 or Infanterie-Gewehr 71, or "Infantry Rifle 71" ("I.G.Mod.71" was stamped on the rifles themselves) was the first rifle model in a distinguished line designed and manufactured by Paul Mauser and Wilhelm Mauser of the Mauser company and later mass-produced at Spandau arsenal.[2]
    HistoryPaul Mauser developed his bolt-action rifle from 1867 to 1871. During 1870–71 trials with many different rifles took place, with the "M1869 Bavarian Werder" being the Mausers' chief competitor. The Mauser was provisionally adopted on 2 December 1871, pending the development of an appropriate safety. With support from the government's Spandau arsenal, the improvements to the safety mechanism were completed and the rifle was formally accepted on 14 February 1872 as Infantry Rifle Model 1871 by the German Empire excluding Bavaria. General issue to troops began in late 1873 and all units had been converted by the spring of 1875. The Mauser 1871 was replaced by the magazine-fed, smokeless powder using Gewehr 1888 from 1888 through 1890.
    DesignThe action was not based on its predecessor, the Dreyse needle gunwhich had seen service during the Franco-Prussian War of 1870–71, and which was found to have a number of weaknesses.[2][3][4] The now well known Mauser "wing" type safety lever was developed for the Gewehr 71. The Gewehr 71 is a conventional looking bolt action chambered in 11mm using black powder cartridges. The action included only a bolt guide rib as its single locking lug, locking forward of the receiving bridge. The original design was a single-shot. The design was updated in 1884 with an 8-round tubular magazine designed by Alfred von Kropatschek, making this Germany's first repeating rifle.

    This version was designated the Gewehr
    1871/84
    .[5] A version of this repeater was adopted by the Ottoman Empire. Designated the M1887, it differentiated from the M71/84 in that it had a side mounted cleaning rod, a second locking lug on the rear of the bolt, and it was in caliber 9.5×60mmR, which Paul Mauser touted as the most efficient (black powder) cartridge. In the early 20th century a few were converted to 7.65×53mm smokeless by the arsenal in Ankara.
    A shorter version of the Model 1871, the M1879 Grenzaufsehergewehr, was issued to the border guards in 1880. It shot a unique 11.15×37.5mmR cartridge, a trimmed down version of the full-power military cartridge.[6]
    Serbia adopted a more up-to-date version of the rifle in 1881, the M1878/80, still single-shot, but chambered in its own 10.15×63R caliber. It had unique additions in that it had a bolt guide (much like the M1870 Italian Vetterli) and the "progressive rifling" (rifling which increases in twist rate as the bullet travels up the bore, to more gradually impart spin) developed by the Serbian Major Kosta "Koka" Milovanović (Коста "Кока" Миловановић), and it is commonly known as "Mauser-Koka", "Mauser-Milovanović", or "Kokinka" ("Кокинка"). The muzzle velocity of the Mauser-Koka was 1,680 feet per second (510 m/s). It saw first combat in the Serbo-Bulgarian War. Approximately 110,000 Mauser-Koka rifles entered the Serbian arsenal. Starting 1907, about half of these were converted in Kragujevac to shoot the 7×57mm from a 5-shot box magazine; the new barrels were purchased from Steyr. Both the old and new guns (designated M80/07) saw action in the Balkan Wars and World War I.[7]The converted M80/07 are often referred to as "Đurić Mausers" (Ђурић-Маузер).[8]
    The M71 was used by the Korean Empire Army (especially Guard units—this rifle replaced the Russian Berdan rifle). The number of rifles used is uncertain but the Korean Empire manufactured ammunition for them, which means that the Korean Empire used a respectable number of them. After the Germans adopted the Gewehr 1888, over 1,000,000 discarded Model 1871 were put into use by the Chinese Qing dynastyarmy.
    In 1894, Uruguay had their stockpile of M71 rifles converted to 6.5×53.5mm SR by Société Française d'Armes Portatives Saint Denis in France. They were given new stocks, barrels, sights, bands, and side mounted cleaning rods. These were unsatisfactory due to weak springs, and many were thrown away.
    Irish Republicans imported some 900 single-shot 1871 Mausers in the Howth gun-running for the nationalist militia called the Irish Volunteers in 1914. They were used in action by the Volunteers in the Easter Rising of 1916, an unsuccessful insurrection aimed at ending British rule in Ireland. The 1871 Mauser became known in Ireland as the "Howth Mauser".[9]
    Comparison with contemporary rifles
    Calibre System Country Velocity Height of trajectory Ammunition
    Muzzle 500 yd (460 m) 1,000 yd (910 m) 1,500 yd (1,400 m) 2,000 yd (1,800 m) 500 yd (460 m) 1,000 yd (910 m) 1,500 yd (1,400 m) 2,000 yd (1,800 m) Propellant Bullet
    .433 in (11.0 mm) Werndl–Holub rifle Austria-Hungary 1,439 ft/s (439 m/s) 854 ft/s (260 m/s) 620 ft/s (190 m/s) 449 ft/s (137 m/s) 328 ft/s (100 m/s) 8.252 ft (2.515 m) 49.41 ft (15.06 m) 162.6 ft (49.6 m) 426.0 ft (129.8 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 370 gr (24 g)
    .45 in (11.43 mm) Martini–Henry United Kingdom 1,315 ft/s (401 m/s) 869 ft/s (265 m/s) 664 ft/s (202 m/s) 508 ft/s (155 m/s) 389 ft/s (119 m/s) 9.594 ft (2.924 m) 47.90 ft (14.60 m) 147.1 ft (44.8 m) 357.85 ft (109.07 m) 85 gr (5.5 g) 480 gr (31 g)
    .433 in (11.0 mm) Fusil Gras mle 1874 France 1,489 ft/s (454 m/s) 878 ft/s (268 m/s) 643 ft/s (196 m/s) 471 ft/s (144 m/s) 348 ft/s (106 m/s) 7.769 ft (2.368 m) 46.6 ft (14.2 m) 151.8 ft (46.3 m) 389.9 ft (118.8 m) 80 gr (5.2 g) 386 gr (25.0 g)
    .433 in (11.0 mm) Mauser Model 1871 Germany 1,430 ft/s (440 m/s) 859 ft/s (262 m/s) 629 ft/s (192 m/s) 459 ft/s (140 m/s) 388 ft/s (118 m/s) 8.249 ft (2.514 m) 48.68 ft (14.84 m) 159.2 ft (48.5 m) 411.1 ft (125.3 m) 75 gr (4.9 g) 380 gr (25 g)
    .408 in (10.4 mm) M1870 Italian Vetterli Italy 1,430 ft/s (440 m/s) 835 ft/s (255 m/s) 595 ft/s (181 m/s) 422 ft/s (129 m/s) 304 ft/s (93 m/s) 8.527 ft (2.599 m) 52.17 ft (15.90 m) 176.3 ft (53.7 m) 469.9 ft (143.2 m) 62 gr (4.0 g) 310 gr (20 g)
    .397 in (10.08 mm) Jarmann M1884 Norway and Sweden 1,536 ft/s (468 m/s) 908 ft/s (277 m/s) 675 ft/s (206 m/s) 504 ft/s (154 m/s) 377 ft/s (115 m/s) 7.235 ft (2.205 m) 42.97 ft (13.10 m) 137.6 ft (41.9 m) 348.5 ft (106.2 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 337 gr (21.8 g)
    .42 in (10.67 mm) Berdan rifle Russia 1,444 ft/s (440 m/s) 873 ft/s (266 m/s) 645 ft/s (197 m/s) 476 ft/s (145 m/s) 353 ft/s (108 m/s) 7.995 ft (2.437 m) 47.01 ft (14.33 m) 151.7 ft (46.2 m) 388.7 ft (118.5 m) 77 gr (5.0 g) 370 gr (24 g)
    .45 in (11.43 mm) Springfield model 1884 United States 1,301 ft/s (397 m/s) 875 ft/s (267 m/s) 676 ft/s (206 m/s) 523 ft/s (159 m/s) 404 ft/s (123 m/s) 8.574 ft (2.613 m) 46.88 ft (14.29 m) 142.3 ft (43.4 m) 343.0 ft (104.5 m) 70 gr (4.5 g) 500 gr (32 g)
    .40 in (10.16 mm) Enfield-Martini United Kingdom 1,570 ft/s (480 m/s) 947 ft/s (289 m/s) 719 ft/s (219 m/s) 553 ft/s (169 m/s) 424 ft/s (129 m/s) 6.704 ft (2.043 m) 39.00 ft (11.89 m) 122.0 ft (37.2 m) 298.47 ft (90.97 m) 85 gr (5.5 g) 384 gr (24.9 g)
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    In fiction and popular culture11-mm Mauser is the service rifle of the Martian Army in The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut.[12] Though, the book states these were bought as surplus from the Spanish–American War, which would in fact make them Model 1893 7×57mm Mauser.
    In the film The Last Samurai, the Japanese Imperial Army carries German bolt-action Mauser M1871/84 rifles. The 1884 models were altered in appearance by film makers to resemble the more period accurate 1871 models.
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    • Mauser Model 1871 for Jäger units


    • Mauser Model 1871 cavalry carbine


    • Mauser Model 1871-84


    • Mauser Model 1871


    • Gewehr 71/84 seen with sword bayonet


    • Askari troops in German East Africa armed with Model 1871s

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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    Members, I managed with Johan Greyling`s assistance to make a chamber cast ..I can confirm now, this is a 11mm Balck Powder Mauser
    The 11mm Mauser (also known as the 11x60mmR Mauser or .43 Mauser) was a black-powder cartridge developed for the Mauser Model 1871 rifle, and used later in the 71/84 variant. It is no longer in production, however it is available from custom loaders and handloading can be done to replenish spent ammunition.

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    Default Re: Mauser 1871 cal 11.15 x 60 aka Mauser 43

    I am going to fire form 45-90 brass to fit in this chamber...I will have a lot of fire formed brass soon...then I can start hunting/shooting this old black powder rifle..

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    Members, I just received 20 x new Mauser43 brass casings from a forum member on African Hunting.com forum..now I do not need to fire form any brass..since these 20 x 43 Mauser casings will ensure me shooting this old rifle for many years...

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    [QUOTE=Gert Odendaal;1261748]Members, I just received 20 x new Mauser43 brass casings from a forum member on African Hunting.com forum..now I do not need to fire form any brass..since these 20 x 43 Mauser casings will ensure me shooting this old rifle for many years... Members. I just purchase a set of reloading dies for my Mauser 71/11mm /Mauser 43 for R 321, these dies will be delivered to me in South Africa by a visiting hunter coming to South Africa in November...free delivery..not bad at all, the same hunter bring the 20 x pieces of brass casing with him.. I will start restoring the rifle stock shortly...

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