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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    All gates to the PS I work at still blocked of. Still a no go for work today. My appreciation and thoughts are with the people in the inside. They are now on shift from God knows when keeping the fires on and the pressure steady. I just hope they have a system to keep fatigue at bay. There are numerous safeties build in but a boiler or a turbine can go BOOM if errors slip in. Remember the turbine they picked the remains from a mielie field a few years ago?

    Eskom being dicks with the 0% increase offered, topped of with unions being bigger dicks by holding a whole country at ransom. My sympathy for the unions are eroded away by the second.

    Prayers for a speedy resolve to this unhealthy situation.



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    Thanks for the update.

    South Africans have to be the world worst or stupidest negotiators. Unions always pitch in at 10% more than they realistically expect. Companies offer 3-5% less than what they are prepared to pay. After 3 weeks of negotiations they get to within 1.5% of each other but neither will budge. After striking, burning buildings and vehicles, workers not being able to feed their family a settlement is reached. Everyone feels done in and the process is repeated the next year.

    On a salary of R10000 pm a 1% difference is R100 pm. This is far less than the loss in wages for workers. Even if their demands are met it will take years to make up lost wages after a strike. The losses to companies in lost business, damaged infrastructure and vehicles etc is also not worth the extra 1 or 2%

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    The scary part is not the sabotage aspect, the scary part is even if the situation is resolved today by negotiations then tomorrow if you are allowed to go back to work you are working among the same terrorists again, they just put on a different face. Tomorrow when you greet them, what do you say, whats up my brother??

    SA is like this, when you walk down the street there are many criminals walking there also, when you go to work there are many terrorists there also, when you buy something you are taxed by communists, and when you speak out against these things you are the one that is wrong.

    Does it even matter if the lights go out, the future is already dark.
    "It's not the dying part that scares me, it's the not living."

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    The scary part is not the sabotage aspect, the scary part is even if the situation is resolved today by negotiations then tomorrow if you are allowed to go back to work you are working among the same terrorists again, they just put on a different face. Tomorrow when you greet them, what do you say, whats up my brother??

    SA is like this, when you walk down the street there are many criminals walking there also, when you go to work there are many terrorists there also, when you buy something you are taxed by communists, and when you speak out against these things you are the one that is wrong.

    Does it even matter if the lights go out, the future is already dark.
    Amen
    Unfortunately it takes a handful of thugs to intimidate 100's of other workers. If you break ranks you are dealt with.

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    Does it even matter if the lights go out, the future is already dark.
    Both physically and proverbially.

    Wean yourself off all the SOC's a.s.a.p. There is no way they can relied on on the long term.

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    I just received a voice note about power station gates being blocked. They allow people to go out but not in and that certain boilers are already being shut down as safety measures so we need to fill up and be ready with our generators. Sounds like it originated last night but how legit it is I have no idea.

    Since they started with these shut down talks my generator is topped up, spare fuel in my jerry cans and my water tank is also full. I am not taking any chances in this circus of a country.

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    https://www.fin24.com/Economy/Eskom/...icket-20180614

    Johannesburg - Eskom CEO Phakamani Hadebe has committed to reopening wage talks with trade unions.

    He was booed by workers outside the power utility’s head office Megawatt Park in Sunninghill on Thursday afternoon, where he received a memorandum during a lunchtime picket.
    Disgruntled workers belonging to the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) and Numsa are demanding a 15% wage increase, while the cash-strapped power utility has said it cannot afford any increases.
    Hadebe spoke briefly amidst the heckles, but was cheered when he said said Eskom management had noted the unions' concerns that were read out in the memorandum.

    Earlier Eskom had said that its network was "constrained today due to the acts of sabotage and intimidation".
    There had been "several incidents of road blockades, attacks on staff, and wilful damage of electricity infrastructure".
    "As a result, all road coal deliveries have been stopped for security reasons. The safety of all our employees is of paramount importance to us during this time," it said in the earlier statement.
    Before Hadebe addressed employees, National Union of Metalworkers (Numsa) President Andrew Chirwa said the power utility was seeking a court interdict to stop the strike.
    He warned that the picket was a "warning bullet" and said that if Eskom continued only offer workers 0% wage increases, they would shut down "all the lights in the country".
    Chirwa added that Eskom was spending R34bn on the Independent Power Producers (IPP) despite the country having an energy surplus.
    "These IPPs are the same as Gupta corruption but they are not Indian corruption...this is White Monopoly Capital."
    "There is no New Dawn... it’s a new dawn of 0% increase that wants to sell Eskom," Chirwa told crowds of cheering workers.
    Unions handed over a memorandum to Eskom leadership at 12:40 on Thursday. The memorandum states that Eskom has created a "self-imposed crisis" by signing IPPs onto the national grid. It adds that, until money lost to corruption is recovered, they reject Eskom’s claims of poverty.
    Keeping the lights on
    Earlier on Thursday, the power utility's spokesperson Khulu Phasiwe said Eskom's ability to keep the lights on could be compromised with intimidation and road blockages "rife" at a number of power stations and regional offices.
    Phasiwe also tweeted that the power supply to Eskom's head office in Sunninghill had "mysteriously" been cut off.
    Six power stations rely on local coal supply, and these will be the most affected by the delivery stoppages.
    The parastatal's management team held an emergency meeting earlier on Thursday morning to address the possibility of load shedding.
    Phasiwe promised to provide regular updates on various media platforms. A placard circulating on social media warned workers against reporting for duty at Eskom during the one-day strike saying that people would be "subjecting" themselves to risk.
    However, Numsa spokesperson Phakamile Hlubi distanced the labour organisation from the threatening poster.
    NUM spokesperson Livhuwani Mammburu, meanwhile, said police on Wednesday night fired rubber bullets to disperse workers who were gathered outside the power stations in Kendal, Thuthuka, Hendrina and Arnot.
    "The police are intimidating the workers, in what is an attempt to prevent the picket. One employee was shot in the eye by a rubber bullet outside Arnot power station."
    "The workers will be joining the picket despite the threats. They are determined to make our voices heard," he said.
    At a press briefing on Wednesday, Eskom Hadebe said that contingency plans were in place to keep the lights on during the one-day strike but cautioned there were no guarantees the power utility would be able to do this.
    Labour federation the Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) leaders met Minister of Public Enterprises Pravin Gordhan on Wednesday afternoon, and they said he promised to call Eskom’s negotiators back to the table and up their offer, in order to avert a full-blown strike.

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    Have to agree that the employees are seeing the place plundered, and yet there is a 0% increase... Unions should push to go after the stolen money.
    Mr Enoj Singh is in the pound seats. Go after his assets.

    As for for the Union bosses - if power is cut off directly or indirectly due to the strike; they should be given a prison term. Just a little accountability would be a start...

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    Methinks we need a Margaret Thatcher to help a bit

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    Thanks for the update.

    South Africans have to be the world worst or stupidest negotiators. Unions always pitch in at 10% more than they realistically expect. Companies offer 3-5% less than what they are prepared to pay. After 3 weeks of negotiations they get to within 1.5% of each other but neither will budge. After striking, burning buildings and vehicles, workers not being able to feed their family a settlement is reached. Everyone feels done in and the process is repeated the next year.

    On a salary of R10000 pm a 1% difference is R100 pm. This is far less than the loss in wages for workers. Even if their demands are met it will take years to make up lost wages after a strike. The losses to companies in lost business, damaged infrastructure and vehicles etc is also not worth the extra 1 or 2%
    Never underestimate the power of stupid people, more so when there's lots of them.

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    Stage 2 Loadshedding in Stellenbosch

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