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    Default Re: 300 Blackout? where ? how much? and any good?

    180gr Nosler Ballistic tip at subsonic speeds should make for a clean kill behind shoulder shots on pigs and still be a bit better than a solid on monkeys
    Something I did not get to test was the ballistic type bullets at sub sonic application - so just theory at moment.Need to buy a 308 again.

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    300BLK is a very versatile cartridge Load it with 230gn bullets for subsonic use and you have reasonable energy on target for a subsonic round and better stabilization and trajectory than many other subsonic loading's. Also much easier for a less than expert re loader to do then a 308 with fillers etc. Low pressure so the brass will last a long time. In a bolt action it also does not have to cycle the action so that eases reloading lots.
    Load it with a lighter bullet in the 110gn range and you go supersonic and have much better trajectory for a bit of distance.
    For what you want to do it may be a reasonable option. It was designed to be a subsonic capable cartridge.

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    A few points or questions.Do you reload.Is there a GS near bye that can supply you with 300BLK ammo. Remembering one shoots a lot when monkeys are involved.The 300 at subsonic doesn't kill or have the effect of .308 caliber rifles at their standard speeds unless the CNS is hit. Night shooting takes some getting used to an practice, especially animals that are not dazed by a spotlight. You need a bit of room for error. Those Mac pigs get big.You have a .22lr. Use it for the smaller stuff it's more versatile than you know. Trapping small vermin in cages also makes it easier. Remembering you are doing pest control here. The suppressor won't remove the noise but will take away that sharp crack, allow you more shots on game as it muffles direction of origin and can cause confusion.If you don't want a 308 insert whatever flavour you want here but I would suggest a 243w as the minimum.If you had a lot of experience I would have a different answer but that's a whole different ball game.Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Beast View Post
    300BLK is a very versatile cartridge Load it with 230gn bullets for subsonic use a
    Load it with a lighter bullet in the 110gn range and you go supersonic and have much better trajectory for a bit of distance.
    For what you want to do it may be a reasonable option. It was designed to be a subsonic capable cartridge.
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    Beastie boy, you may just get away with those two extremes in bullet weight if the rifle has a twist heavily in favor of the 220gr bullet. The subsonic bullet needs the faster side extreme of a given twist or all kinda "huh ? " begins to happen. The light bullet will be happy in the over spin barrel if not pushed to hard. Just one question though how you going use that thing with 220 gr bullet at subsonic for work type hunting, not fun an games stalk all day stuff ?. The trajectory will be worse than a 45 ACP, that + vermin on month two of getting shot at become a task even with 200 m capable weapons.

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    Also have such neighbors. I agree, we must look after each other on farms in these times, but really, there is a huge difference between a hunting rifle single shot and maybe a follow up and a farm attack shootout. So we came to agreement that if target shooting and multiple shots are being taken we just pop a whatsapp on our farm watch whatsapp group: "Ek skiet". For clear hunting / vermin shots life is normal. It works for us and nobody freaks out anymore. If that side they don't want to co-operate, well, tell them to mind their own business.

    Get a .308, silence it is a good option, and make sure of backstops on small farms and don't shoot high up into trees.

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    Stupid question - what is "mac farming"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyc View Post
    Stupid question - what is "mac farming"?
    Thank you, I was about to ask the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyc View Post
    Stupid question - what is "mac farming"?
    It's half of the mac and cheese equation.
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    Macadamia nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treeman View Post
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    Beastie boy, you may just get away with those two extremes in bullet weight if the rifle has a twist heavily in favor of the 220gr bullet. The subsonic bullet needs the faster side extreme of a given twist or all kinda "huh ? " begins to happen. The light bullet will be happy in the over spin barrel if not pushed to hard. Just one question though how you going use that thing with 220 gr bullet at subsonic for work type hunting, not fun an games stalk all day stuff ?. The trajectory will be worse than a 45 ACP, that + vermin on month two of getting shot at become a task even with 200 m capable weapons.
    The 300BLK is typically barreled with a twits to support heavy bullets as that is what it is designed for.
    The subsonic is not for every day hunting, the OP asked about the caliber for pest control with subsonics. All subsonics really suck as they are all basically pistol ballistics. But the 300BLK BC sucks much less then a 45 ACP and would have a much better trajectory. with lighter projectiles the 300BLK will do 200m.
    Benefits is off the shelf subsonics and supersonic ammo, But at a price.

    Is it the best? I don't know, but not the worst. Will it work for what the OP wants? I think so. For someone new to reloading and wanting to do subsonics there isn't a really easy answer. This will be easier to reload then some options but not as as easy as a 45ACP.

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