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    Default Re: Footage of JMPD restraining a woman

    The willful disregard of rights by those in power is frightening
    Don’t take life too seriously, no one gets out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev123 View Post
    It's not like I have my head in the sand saying it's not going to happen... If you get a bad apple that is looking for trouble it will find you, regardless.

    But the likelihood is in my opinion reduced when one doesn't drink and drive. The last three times I have been pulled over late night and been asked how many I' have had, or if I've been drinking, told them I don't drink and drive and haven't had any so they let me go. If I said yes I have had one or two drinks, then the whole breathalyzer debacle starts, and that gives them room to give you shit.

    Just my opinion.
    no its literally just "eh give for me R200"

    i don't drink much, never drink and drive, (cause im a good boy)

    my brother in law got pulled over SOBER, eish follow us, to a point where no street lights
    they gave him shit, saw a pic of his GF in his wallet, asked him if he F%^KS her, does she like it

    oke was 18 and shitting himself.


    sucks so much for those who are commited to their jobs

    but saps/policing has become a cess pool of sub 30% matriculants who want a salary and pension, its not a career (especially if you don't meet the demographic) and it is no longer a calling

    private security carry half of saps mandate and PAY government to do it

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    Most immunity I've known is a friend who inherited his dad's black BMW X5 with heavily tinted windows

    Cops not even going to think of stopping you

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    Default Re: Footage of JMPD restraining a woman

    I've got some questions for the legal guys.

    Is it illegal to tamper with evidence (i.e. delete footage of an alleged crime), or is it just a movie thing?

    If so, is it still illegal if the alleged crime turned out not to be a crime?

    If so, on what grounds would it be acceptable to prevent somebody from collecting evidence of (recording) an alleged crime in progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaaphaas View Post
    “Do you consent for me to draw blood?”

    “No”

    “Well, you just made our night...”
    Skaaphaas, you can correct me, but as far as I know she will be charged with Driving under the influence of Alcohol as well as Defeating the ends of Justice.

    I examined and draw blood for five years in Potchefstroom.
    I have under went further clinical forensic training to do so correctly.

    I have always warned refusing drivers as what can happen if they refuse examination and drawing of a blood sample, namely that they can get the extra charge or alternatively having drawn the sample with voilence- which happened in this case!

    SO yes, she can sue the JMPD for assault as well as the nurse involve, but this too will end up nowhere.

    The two hour rule is the number one way to get away with drunk driving.

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    I haven’t done enough of those cases to see a charge of defeating the ends of justice, but it makes sense.

    The thing is, you can also be charged for “driving while under the influence of alcohol or other narcotic substance” without a breath or blood sample being taken, and it is mostly based on the evidence of the arresting officer, about your demeanour and his other personal observations. It’s a more difficult charge for the state to prove, but also carries heavier penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finkelstein View Post
    Skaaphaas, you can correct me, but as far as I know she will be charged with Driving under the influence of Alcohol as well as Defeating the ends of Justice.

    I examined and draw blood for five years in Potchefstroom.
    I have under went further clinical forensic training to do so correctly.

    I have always warned refusing drivers as what can happen if they refuse examination and drawing of a blood sample, namely that they can get the extra charge or alternatively having drawn the sample with voilence- which happened in this case!

    SO yes, she can sue the JMPD for assault as well as the nurse involve, but this too will end up nowhere.

    The two hour rule is the number one way to get away with drunk driving.
    And medical malpractice? No gloves, no uniform etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    Why would you think that that would make you immune?
    Sadly true
    I have been on the wrong end of a breathalyzer reading. While sitting on that cold concrete floor there where multiple others in there driving completely dry that still got arrested on suspicion.

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    Default Re: Footage of JMPD restraining a woman

    So the right to remain silent is not considered obstruction, but refusing bodily invasion is?
    Don’t take life too seriously, no one gets out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorditeCrazy View Post
    So the right to remain silent is not considered obstruction, but refusing bodily invasion is?
    Yes.
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