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10-09-2019, 10:21 #1
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Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
A couple of years back I did my U/S 123516, which is the Proficiency training to be a formally SASSETA qualified Range Officer. I was duly issued with course completion certificate, statement of results & a laminated card that states I am a SASSETA qualified RO. The card is not a Competency Card as issued by CFR and it has never been suggested that it is any way a replacement for or equivalent to a CFR-issued competency card but it has been good enough for anything I have needed.
Anyway, I was going to see my DFO for something else so I decided to try applying for a CFR additional competency as an RO and see what happens.
Well, we couldn't even load it onto the system because the system does not allow for a Competency Card for U/S 123516 to be requested. In other words, it is "impossible" for one to get a competency card/certificate to prove competency for being an RO.
There is a drop-down menu, limiting the choice of competencies to:
- Competency to own a firearm
- Competency to be a gunsmith
- Competency to be a dealer
and 2 or 3 others that escape me right now.
So, my question is: Has anyone else ever tried to apply for RO Competency, and if so what happened?
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10-09-2019, 10:27 #2
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Re: Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
ROs are regulated by either ITA or PTFC, they have nothing to do with owning or taking responsibility for a firearm arm and so have no category in the FCA, which is a good thing.
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10-09-2019, 16:21 #3
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10-09-2019, 16:56 #4
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12-09-2019, 06:33 #5
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Re: Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
What were you trying to achieve here to begin with?
Being an RO has nothing to do with the CFR.
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12-09-2019, 08:04 #6
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Re: Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
RO status is granted by individual organisation's after the person has undergone the necessary training. Although firearm safety is universal, the disciplines of handgun, rifle, shotgun and semi-auto rifle each have different controls in place to ensure safety in the drills or exercises that are shot.
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12-09-2019, 08:22 #7
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12-09-2019, 08:35 #8
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Re: Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
You are not incorrect, but I think you might have missed some of the detail in my post.
I did U/S 123516, which requires attending a course, writing an exam & doing a practical, same as proficiency courses to own a handgun/rifle/shotgun. There are other proficiencies too:
U/S 117705 – Knowledge of the Firearms Control Act 60/2000
U/S 119649 – Handle and use a handgun
U/S 119650 – Handle and use a self-loading rifle or carbine
U/S 119651 – Handle and use a manually operated rifle or carbine
U/S 119652 – Handle and use a shotgun
U/S 123510 – Apply tactical knowledge in the use of firearms
U/S 123511 – Handle and use a self-loading rifle or carbine for business purposes
U/S 123512 – Demonstrate tactical proficiency with a shotgun
U/S 123513 – Demonstrate tactical proficiency with a handgun
U/S 123514 – Handle and use a shotgun for business purposes
U/S 123515 – Handle and use a handgun for business purposes
U/S 123516 – Supervise Shooting Exercise (Range Officer)
U/S 123517 – Supervise the operation of a shooting range and tactical shooting exercises
U/S 123518 – Demonstrate tactical proficiency with a self-loading rifle or Carbine
U/S 123519 – Handle and use a manually operated rifle or carbine for Business purposes
U/S 123520 – Supervise firearm training
U/S 243200 – Handle and use a muzzle-loading firearm
For most of these courses, the system doesn't allow for an application for competency to be loaded onto the system.
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12-09-2019, 08:42 #9
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12-09-2019, 09:51 #10
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Re: Competency to supervise shooting exercises "SASSETA RO"
That course qualifies you to be an RO on a public range.
Like I said, it has nothing to do with the cfr.
Back to my question, what were you trying to achieve?
A competency deals with your fitness to use a firearm or trade in firearms.
An RO doesn't need to posses a firearm to perform his duties, so what would cfr deem you competent for then.
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