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    Default Re: LIFE AND DEATH IN SHANGHAI ( South Africa )

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    This is quite interesting ( what is even more interesting is where it comes from )

    Lessons for Today

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    The First -- Socialisation

    Genesis 47:13-26:

    “And there is no bread over the whole Earth, because the famine is very heavy; and the Land of Egypt and the land of Canaan shrank from the face of the hunger.
    And Joseph accumulated all the money which is found in the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan, selling grain that they are purchasing,
    and Joseph brought the money to the house of Pharaoh.


    And when the money from the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan was gone, all Egypt came to Joseph to say: “Give us bread, and why should we die facing you: because we ran out of money.”
    Joseph said: “Bring your herds, and I will give to you for your herds if your money is gone”
    And they brought their herds to Joseph, and Joseph gave them bread on their horses and the herds of sheep and the herds of cattle and the donkeys; and dealt them bread for all their cattle, in that year.

    And that year ended, and they came to him the second year and they said to him: “We will not keep from our lord that the money is finished, and the herds of beasts all to our lord, nothing is left before our lord, other than our expiring bodies and our lands.
    Why shall we die in your presence, us and our lands buy, buy us and our lands, for bread; and we and our lands will be servants for Pharaoh and give seed and we will live and not die, the land will not be emptied”


    And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, because the Egyptians sold each man his field, because the hunger is clenched upon them tight and the land became Pharaoh’s.
    And the people, he moved to cities, from one end of Egypt until the other.


    Only the land of the priests did he not buy. Because the priests had a share besides Pharaoh’s.
    And they ate the share which Pharaoh had given them, and for this reason they did not sell their lands.



    The farmers of Egypt could not stand a long famine.
    Joseph suggested to help them, but in return, he bought all their lands. ….
    And Joseph said to the people,
    “Since I have bought you and your lands today for Pharaoh, here is seed for you, and seed the land.
    And it will be reaping season, and you will give a fifth to Pharaoh; and four hand-measures will you get for seeding the land and for eating, and to give to your households and your tots.”

    and they said, “You have saved our lives: we will be good in the eyes of your lord, and we will be servants to Pharaoh.
    And Joseph made it a law until this very day, the land of Egypt belongs to Pharaoh, to remove the fifth part only the land of the priests does not belong to Pharaoh.”



    As a consequence, Egyptian farmers turned from free workers to pharaoh’s serfs and had to pay 20 percent of their income as a tax to the pharaoh, similar to the concept of ‘chibharo’ in Zimbabwe.

    https://www.thepatriot.co.zw/old_pos...form-in-egypt/



    D'var Torah (Korakh)
    Who Was Korakh?


    The most threatening of these challenges, however, was the constitutional crisis brought about by Korakh’s attempt to supplant both Moses as political leader and Aaron as High Priest.

    https://www.reconstructingjudaism.or...who-was-korakh


    It would appear some things NEVER change !

    Interesting take, thank you.

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    Default Re: LIFE AND DEATH IN SHANGHAI ( South Africa )

    Wow after the 2nd post the name of the thread should have been changed. Things escalated quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HxC View Post
    Wow after the 2nd post the name of the thread should have been changed. Things escalated quickly.
    Mental practise for -- "Draw or Escalate" ....

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    Default Re: LIFE AND DEATH IN SHANGHAI ( South Africa )

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenneke View Post
    Mental practise for -- "Draw or Escalate" ....


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    Default Re: LIFE AND DEATH IN SHANGHAI ( South Africa )

    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi_ View Post
    The IQ discussion is seriously racist, at best the IQ calculations that most countries use are culturally biased. If you create one that is math based then cultures or people that have been schooled in math will perform better. IQ tests measure schooling levels, not education mindt can actually argue their points they fail.
    Extraordinary claim that the test is racist. I will wait for your extraordinary proof that a test that measures reasoning ability is racist.

    cut and paste from wikipedia or any other wiki is not acceptable proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grobbie View Post
    I doubt you would be so smug and condescending with a half arsed answer if I was standing in front of you.
    I will admit that I giggled a little when I read this part.....as I have seen you standing in groups of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet View Post
    I will admit that I giggled a little when I read this part.....as I have seen you standing in groups of people
    He obviously doesn't know how smug and condescending i can really be but in all honesty I don't care what he thinks about me. May he live in his own little bubble, i will live in mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    Extraordinary claim that the test is racist. I will wait for your extraordinary proof that a test that measures reasoning ability is racist.

    cut and paste from wikipedia or any other wiki is not acceptable proof.
    The IQ tests are based on schooling, if you continuously perform exams or multiple-choice test you will on average perform better than somebody who has not had that opportunity irrespective of intellectual capabilities. When somebody claims the IQ in Africa is let's say 70% then they ignore the fact that it is an average, anybody who has been in real Africa knows that people are in fact average, some smart, some not so smart. Outliers in both directions are rare.

    My own experience is that in most countries the average person is better educated than their South African counterparts and certainly have more drive to succeed. General statements that in Africa the IQ is lower than in the rest of the world stink of prejudice. And people who like to repeat them are racist.

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    Default Re: LIFE AND DEATH IN SHANGHAI ( South Africa )

    The second link means f#@k-all; i.e. 10 years out of date. Plus I personally knew 2 people that was part of Mensa at the time. So, somehow, the data cannot be correct.

    As for the first link, not quite sure how the 1300+ MENSA members mean that the average IQ of SA is 70. Or how it is genetically low.

    Perhaps I am missing something?

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