Winchester Defender 1300

**simonsmal** · 09-07-2019, 10:08

Hi Guys

Anyone add any mods to their Winchester Defenders, sights etc

Drop a pic and where you had it done/ got the parts etc

Looking to upgrade my 1300 a bit as it is stock standard at the moment

**noost** · 09-07-2019, 14:15

I have a 1300 and I bought and installed all the bells and whistles that it can possibly take. 3 years later and I ripped everything off and it is now stock standard. The reason?

I did not listen to guys like Big T when I asked the same question like you are asking now. Shoot it a lot before you decide on what you put on.

Some training and range time will cost less then the upgrades.

Although people on the forum recommend the Hogue stocks.

**simonsmal** · 09-07-2019, 14:16

Originally Posted by noost

I have a 1300 and I bought and installed all the bells and whistles that it can possibly take. 3 years later and I ripped everything off and it is now stock standard. The reason? I did not listen to guys like Big T. Shoot it a lot before you decide on what you put on. Some training and range time will cost less then the upgrades.

Very interesting, not even sights nothing ?

**Vaal** · 09-07-2019, 14:52

I use my 1300 for Ipsc SG matches. Had a Hogue stock on it for a while, did not like it and went back to the original wooden one. Installed a +2 mag extension (Tacstar) now it takes 9 + 1 and use a HiViz clamp on fiber sight. Glued the sight with very thin double sided tape to stop it from getting knocked off, the previous sight was epoxcied in place and I had to break it off to remove it. My only next mod will be to install a decent recoil pad, the old one is dry and slippery.

**Defender** · 09-07-2019, 15:04

Stock standard and shoot IDPA with it. Old war horse working like a charm

**Defender** · 09-07-2019, 15:34

Originally Posted by Defender

Stock standard and shoot IDPA with it. Old war horse working like a charm

OK. Sorry. SADPA

**gizmo16** · 09-07-2019, 16:49

I got some magnetic Hi-viz site on the front, works well. Put a velcro shell holder thingum on the side of the receiver (velcro thing) from TacQM. Also works great.

**Vaal** · 09-07-2019, 19:12

Originally Posted by gizmo16

I got some magnetic Hi-viz site on the front, works well. Put a velcro shell holder thingum on the side of the receiver (velcro thing) from TacQM. Also works great.

My first Hiviz was also a magnetic model but it used to fly off when shooting slugs or buckshot. That is when I glued it in place, permanently. Otherwise a cable tie works as a temporary on the range solution.

**burger** · 10-07-2019, 08:41

Originally Posted by Vaal

I use my 1300 for Ipsc SG matches. Had a Hogue stock on it for a while, did not like it and went back to the original wooden one. Installed a +2 mag extension (Tacstar) now it takes 9 + 1 and use a HiViz clamp on fiber sight. Glued the sight with very thin double sided tape to stop it from getting knocked off, the previous sight was epoxcied in place and I had to break it off to remove it. My only next mod will be to install a decent recoil pad, the old one is dry and slippery.

I second this.

47 · 10-07-2019, 16:30

Interesting observation on this topic, which I still have to confirm for myself:

On T's shotgun course a few weeks ago, it happened from time to time (about 5% of my shots) with my 1300 that I could not succeed in getting enough leverage to squeeze the trigger to fire. My first thought was that I was short stroking, because this never happened before, but every time the shot fired as soon as I adjusted the position of my trigger finger.

In my non expert opinion, two possible causes:

1. Since I have been mostly a pistol shooter (Glock), perhaps I did not position my trigger finger correctly; or (and this is something I still have to verify myself)
2. since I have installed an ATI pistol grip stock, the angle of my grip is now so much different in position from the original traditional design stock, that I do not get proper trigger finger position as intended by the designers, seeing as that the 1300's trigger is situated quite far back in the trigger guard. As soon as I find the original stock, I will verify.

Apart from something like a Benelli M4 for instance, which I am sure would have been designed to take a pistol grip stock into account, it seems to me one should be careful to just throw on a pistol grip stock on any shotgun and change the grip angle.