9mm

[Psychosis]

So its settled but a clock 17 gen 3 or 4?

Shoot both, then decide.

Gen 4 has a double recoil spring, so theoretically the felt recoil and muzzle flip is less - this is open to personal preference though.

The Gen 4's also come with interchangeable backstraps, to allow you to better "size" the grip for your hand.

There are far more extra's available for the Gen 3's... although it will improve for the Gen 4's over time.

Up to you ;-)

[b20]

Get the GLOCK for the following reasons:
1:It's cheap
2:It's super reliable
3:It's simple
4:It's pretty
5:It's a GLOCK

Agree with everything but no. 4.

Therefore get an HK. Would say P30, but given the budget, go USP Full Size.

[Gunservant]

Agree with everything but no. 4.

Therefore get an HK. Would say P30, but given the budget, go USP Full Size.

b20, you are a man after my own heart! I'll buy you a beer when you are this side of the planet again!

[gwj DICKDEKOCK]

Agree with everything but no. 4.

Therefore get an HK. Would say P30, but given the budget, go USP Full Size.

well...I guess good taste isn't for everyone haha...

[ikor]

If you have a Gen 2 or 3 now, get another Gen3. elsewise some parts will not interchange should you ever...heaven forbid...have to take two guns that are not working and make one that does.

[marshy]

Go with the GLOCK 17 Gen 4.....do it! just do it!

[marshy]

If you have a Gen 2 or 3 now, get another Gen3. elsewise some parts will not interchange should you ever...heaven forbid...have to take two guns that are not working and make one that does.

I've got the Gen3 G19, but have fallen hard for the little Gen4 G26.... she's wanting to come home with me soon!

[sl@de]

Stick to HK!!

P30 or full size USP

[shooter]

If you are the guy I'm thinking of (might be wrong - I have let a few prospective shooters test out the G17), you have already shot my G17 Gen 3. You should be able to test out a Gen 4 \ Gen 3 G17 at Paradys in BFN on a club shoot day.

[harm]

CZ Shadow?