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Thread: To vote or not to vote.......
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08-05-2014, 10:27 #251
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Re: To vote or not to vote.......
I do not believe the "total votes cast" number on n24 is the what you're referring to. It makes far more sense that it's the total votes counted, and that it's incorrectly labelled.
Re the 16 million: historic voter turnout is in the order of 75% and it looks similar in this election. So total counted votes should be just shy of 19 million.
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08-05-2014, 10:27 #252
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08-05-2014, 10:29 #253
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08-05-2014, 10:33 #254
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Yeah, I share the frustration of 'how can these guys keep voting for the ANC... what is wrong with them?'
But then, consider for how long people used to vote for the NATS, even while being unhappy with things...[b]Be ready for anything, and if his head is not at least two meters away from the body, do not 'assume' he is dead and out of the fight.[/b] [I]- Ikor[/I]
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08-05-2014, 10:40 #255
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08-05-2014, 10:51 #257
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Re: To vote or not to vote.......
Todor, consider for a moment that most people who reach the decision to stop voting and care to comment on it don't do so on a whim. For most people who make that decision it is more akin to changing religion than it is to what you seem to think it is - which I'm guessing is inaction, apathy and/or laziness.
Personally, I decided not to vote after literally 8 months of studying history and economics - full time - probably 10 hours a day.
Most people who decide not to vote on principle do so because they realize it's a joke. But do you really think that is the only thing they decide to change? And then do NOTHING, as you put it?
The sheep mentality is the shrugging of personal responsibility. Here on Gunsite, people are often criticized for having a sheep mentality - where people believe they don't need to protect themselves, often simply because it's unpopular or, just as often, because they believe the government will save them.
And then the same people who criticize others for having sheep mentalities obediently go stand in queues at voting stations to draw a little X next to the party who they believe will save them, in the comfort that by doing so they've done their part and made their contributions to saving the country as a whole, while at the same time harshly criticising those who don't follow their examples.
I see the predictions are 62.5% ANC, 22.5% DA and 5% EFF. So we're looking at 85% socialist and 5% fascist government. History really is remarkable repetitive.
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08-05-2014, 10:54 #258
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It's not looking good now. Between the ANC and EFF, more than 66.6% of the vote...
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08-05-2014, 10:57 #259
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Re: To vote or not to vote.......
Many brands - change their names (or sell two brands) to keep trading, and keep customers under an old and new brand name... :)
A simple example: Skip and Omo are made by the same company - on the shelf they appear to compete in price tag and "perceived value" with one another from a consumer perspective.... While all the profits of both brands go to one company.
Some people say social science and psychology is not an exact science... well I beg to differ. Voters are consumers of a political brand...at least once every 5 years.
And its possible that 2 brands may actually belong to the same "holding company" even if they appear to be competitors to the uninformed consumer.
Time will tell if this is a real change of management, or semantics. Lets see how the coalitions form after the election results are out - they have 5 years.
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08-05-2014, 11:01 #260
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You have very high expectations of the voting process. I don't expect a single politician to make my life better. I don't "vote for change" and I think the people who expect their government to save them are "the sheep" you speak of. I also think people who take individual and social responsibility do much more for "the country" than the government does and that's extremely important too.
That said. The ONLY thing I hate more than socialist/fascist is a party staying in power for 20 years. Power corrupts, absolute power... etc. e.g I don't care you you vote in - just vote out the people starting to plant roots.
I can go on and on arguing this view point, but this article sums it up http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opini.../#.U2pTea2SywG
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