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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierMan View Post
    What? Heck no they're not objective.
    In case you hadn't noticed, I was being sarcastic!

    Peter

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    By the time Trump took office in 2016 the fate of Syria was a fait accompli.

    Obama`s second and final time to take action and his second terrible mistake was in 2013
    after the Sarin gas attacks on civilians. The year before he made the "red line' statement.
    Assad crossed the line and Obama did nothing. The world waited for repercussions. There
    were none.
    While Obama dithered Vladimir Putin negotiated with Assad to give up his chemical weapons.
    Assad got to stay in power and Obama got a way to save face by claiming success without military
    action. Here is the full article:

    https://www.theringer.com/2017/1/18/...y-853644abdd1b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luker View Post
    By the time Trump took office in 2016 the fate of Syria was a fait accompli.

    Obama`s second and final time to take action and his second terrible mistake was in 2013
    after the Sarin gas attacks on civilians. The year before he made the "red line' statement.
    Assad crossed the line and Obama did nothing. The world waited for repercussions. There
    were none.
    While Obama dithered Vladimir Putin negotiated with Assad to give up his chemical weapons.
    Assad got to stay in power and Obama got a way to save face by claiming success without military
    action. Here is the full article:

    https://www.theringer.com/2017/1/18/...y-853644abdd1b
    This is a fascinating article (and thank you for the link - interesting how even Hilary Clinton and John Kerry wanted to do more for the Syrian rebels) but whereas Obama fucked up, Trump betrayed allies who were at the forefront of the war against ISIS and at the same time handed over a huge military intelligence coup to the Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samizat45 View Post
    This is a fascinating article (and thank you for the link - interesting how even Hilary Clinton and John Kerry wanted to do more for the Syrian rebels) but whereas Obama fucked up, Trump betrayed allies who were at the forefront of the war against ISIS and at the same time handed over a huge military intelligence coup to the Russians.
    Glad you enjoyed it. We`ll chat again.

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    In 1975, I was a freshman in high school. My 1st class of the day was history with Mr. Schenk. Mr. Schenk grew up in Germany during the late Weimar era and then though the National Socialist era. After WWII he came to America. He had lived and knew history like no one I have ever met. He stated in one class ' Russia will become a capitalist nation and America will become a socialist nation in 50 years.'
    The class laughed and said no way.

    Here we are. Mr. Schenk only missed the date by 4 years.

    He then said it would only last a few years then there would be a massive backlash. I believe he is correct and it is going to be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    In 1975, I was a freshman in high school. My 1st class of the day was history with Mr. Schenk. Mr. Schenk grew up in Germany during the late Weimar era and then though the National Socialist era. After WWII he came to America. He had lived and knew history like no one I have ever met. He stated in one class ' Russia will become a capitalist nation and America will become a socialist nation in 50 years.'
    The class laughed and said no way.

    Here we are. Mr. Schenk only missed the date by 4 years.

    He then said it would only last a few years then there would be a massive backlash. I believe he is correct and it is going to be epic.
    Unfortunately that seems to be what is unfolding. Are you are yours prepared krieger? I mean with water, food, gold, etc. I don't have to ask about guns given what forum we are on

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    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    In 1975, I was a freshman in high school. My 1st class of the day was history with Mr. Schenk. Mr. Schenk grew up in Germany during the late Weimar era and then though the National Socialist era. After WWII he came to America. He had lived and knew history like no one I have ever met. He stated in one class ' Russia will become a capitalist nation and America will become a socialist nation in 50 years.'
    The class laughed and said no way.

    Here we are. Mr. Schenk only missed the date by 4 years.

    He then said it would only last a few years then there would be a massive backlash. I believe he is correct and it is going to be epic.
    Which is what happened after Obama.

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    So i see Trump wrote some new Firearm rules in yesterday for concealed carry mainly of personal firearms to certain law individuals.

    Off course later today Biden walks in and just goes Nah! lets scrap it. As he will more then likely in first week just about turn the Trump boat upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Power View Post
    In case you hadn't noticed, I was being sarcastic!

    Peter
    Ah sorry missed that, it's all so serious!


    Quote Originally Posted by shooty View Post
    So i see Trump wrote some new Firearm rules in yesterday for concealed carry mainly of personal firearms to certain law individuals.

    Off course later today Biden walks in and just goes Nah! lets scrap it. As he will more then likely in first week just about turn the Trump boat upside down.
    What specifically did he do with regards to firearms?

    Ah, this?
    Trump Signs Executive Order Expanding Prosecutors’ Access to Concealed Carry Permit

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    Default Re: America - Will we stand or will we fall

    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    In 1975, I was a freshman in high school. My 1st class of the day was history with Mr. Schenk. Mr. Schenk grew up in Germany during the late Weimar era and then though the National Socialist era. After WWII he came to America. He had lived and knew history like no one I have ever met. He stated in one class ' Russia will become a capitalist nation and America will become a socialist nation in 50 years.'
    The class laughed and said no way.

    Here we are. Mr. Schenk only missed the date by 4 years.

    He then said it would only last a few years then there would be a massive backlash. I believe he is correct and it is going to be epic.

    Would think anyone with eyes in the USA would see what shitholes Seattle etc have become, I even saw Venice beach has turned into a parasite paradise.
    Liberalism to the extreme, I wonder if kids are busy sniffing soy hazelnut lattes, while their girlfriends grow armpit hair to their hips

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