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21-11-2020, 22:33 #21
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
I'm sorry you've been in that situation, but it's irrelevant. All we're talking about here is the circumstances of a shooting and how those circumstances would be interpreted in a court. Given the OP's video, it's reasonable to ask how a a court will judge this. Have you really never encountered someone acting in self defense being charged with attempted murder? It's fairly common.
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21-11-2020, 22:35 #22
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
On a personal note, I know of a shop keeper who was attacked in his store earlier this week.
At least 5 BG's overpowered staff and customers, cable-tied everyone and proceeded to work (i.e.: kick and punch) the manager; mostly for the heck of it.
They left but returned seconds later and stabbed him in the back while he was still face down on the floor; hands still cable tied.
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21-11-2020, 22:36 #23
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
Thanks, Peace and sorry to derail, though I do think they're linked. I agree with your points, I was simply trying to understand how a court may view that particular incident given pillars mentioned in your video. I reckon we should all engage with these sorts of examples to fully appreciate how the law responds to self defence.
Nowhere did I say the shooter was in the wrong. We need to apply the thought in your video.
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21-11-2020, 22:38 #24
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
I think you may be confusing an inquest document for a murder document. This is commonly misunderstood - in no small part due to poor reporting in the media.
The cops will have to open an inquest document, perform the necessary investigation and pending the findings that inquest could get upgraded to a case of attempted murder (legal eagles will correct me here).
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21-11-2020, 22:44 #25
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21-11-2020, 23:22 #26
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
Jesus guys. Why dogpile on the new guy like a pack of hungry hyenas? He asked a legitimate question. You wonder why most of the old members have left? Be better.
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21-11-2020, 23:22 #27
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
None, sorry.
I think it comes down to the combination between the shooter's/defender's attitude when the cops arrive and whether or not the cops arriving are predisposed to going hard on "subjects".
From my personal interactions with chaps who have been involved in shootings, none of them have had a murder charged raised immediately. Anecdotally, of course, there's a thousand incidents related where defenders have been "charged with murder by the cops for shooting the home invader". I think we all now understand that that "murder charge" is infact a inquest docket.
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21-11-2020, 23:23 #28
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
Docket - not document. Sorry about that.
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21-11-2020, 23:26 #29
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
Again wrong. I am sure, or at least hopeful that a judge would come to the conclusion that the video is incomplete.
And then to top it all you say I am incompetent because I cannot infer details of which I have only limited info, is your opinion.
No worries man. You carry on.
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21-11-2020, 23:30 #30
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Re: Use of Deadly Force in Self-Defense
While we're at it, I think it's also necessary for us to bear in mind that just because the attacker is retreating it does not mean that he is no longer a threat. He could very well pop off a couple of rounds to cover his escape.
Tying in with that, shooting an attacker in the back is not a 100%-to-go-jail card. I know this is a big one in the "defensive-gun-use-myth hall of fame".
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