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    Default Re: France 2020/2021 hunting season

    Great write-up Methos, lovely photos! Well done on your hunts.

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    Tayls

    When we get back to the hunting cabin boars are emptied and then gets chopped in half using a meat cleaver. At the beginning I thought they were mad! But now I'm getting the hang of chopping animals in half using a cleaver. Skin stays on - It is up to each person to skin their part at home. Big pig halves gets chopped into 3 and small pigs into 2.

    This is one of my favourite recipes.

    https://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/sho...20#post1398520

    I also make boerewors, jalpeno wors, mince meat, cabanossi etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methos View Post
    Tayls

    When we get back to the hunting cabin boars are emptied and then gets chopped in half using a meat cleaver. At the beginning I thought they were mad! But now I'm getting the hang of chopping animals in half using a cleaver. Skin stays on - It is up to each person to skin their part at home. Big pig halves gets chopped into 3 and small pigs into 2.

    This is one of my favourite recipes.

    https://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/sho...20#post1398520

    I also make boerewors, jalpeno wors, mince meat, cabanossi etc.
    Oh, wow. Good to know, thanks!

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    Methos, do you have pictures of the meat cleaver process and or the end result?
    Could you please do a detailed write on that part, how it is done ?
    I assume animal is split length wise?
    If not how is it decided who gets rump and who gets for quarter?
    If length wise do they chop along spine or split spine?

    How do you divide a animal into 3?

    I really did not think when seeing your post header that I would find value or interest in the Re: France 2020/2021 hunting season

    Now I wish I could phone you for a half hour, this boar you guys hunt, is it like warthog, bushpig or domestic pig ?
    Some say feral pigs crossed are more like mutton/lamb than pork - would you call these thing pork or venison?

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    Treeman

    I don't have any pics at the moment cause normally my hands are all full of blood when we do it. Will try. And take some this weekend if we shoot any.

    How it is done: boar gets suspended by one leg from a hook/pulley. You start at the arse end and cut through the middle of the spine. The first one I did I slipped to the side and chopped the ribs from the spine. A French oomie yelled at me . Now I just go straight through. Practice helps.

    Animal gets cut intonhalf lengthwise. Then split into primals. Shoulder, belly and leg. The way we do it is I use a box cutter with removable blades. Cut through the meat and skin from the flesh side and then when you get to backbone it gets chopped with the cleaver axe.

    As for deciding who gets what it all depends on how many boar gets killed and how many hunters there are. In one hunt that I went to only one was killed and we were 7 people that wanted meat. Parts of the boar would go into numbered bags and 1 To 6 would be written on pieces of paper that gets thrown into a hat. You pick from the hat and that is your piece of meat.

    In our hunt we kill upto 120 boars per year between 30 hunters. Some people don't like boar meat. We usually just pick and choose which pieces we want. Sometimes I wouldn't take any boar for 2 or 3 weeks and next time I just say I'm taking a whole one. Everybody at the hunting club are reasonably well to do (except me ) so nobody is hurting for meat.

    The meat of older boar have a strong smell. The meat from younger boars are really more like goat meat. Paler in colour and not a lot of fat. Older animals, the meat is blood read. Definitely more venison than pork. You can get a lot of fat on the boar depending on the season it was killed in.

    The boar that we hunt isn't feral pigs. It is European wild boar. If you want to have a chat illnsend you my phone no on WhatsApp via pm.

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    Quote- Methos:
    The meat of older boar have a strong smell. The meat from younger boars are really more like goat meat. Paler in colour and not a lot of fat. Older animals, the meat is blood read. Definitely more venison than pork. You can get a lot of fat on the boar depending on the season it was killed in.

    The boar that we hunt isn't feral pigs. It is European wild boar.
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    This is almost payable for information to me, its like discovering things - the input value is thrilling to me.

    I am of the opinion that pork as we know it is a
    abomination, I used to eat pork in quantity, but some where between reading, learning and just the feeling I got handling smelling pork, I went totally off pork. I still eat bacon when its dished up, but never buy it. I never put bacon in any food I make to flavour it.
    My venison is often in craft meat form or processed, but all my butchers know NO PORK FAT. My butcher is still paying off a large batch of meat he put pork fat into and I returned it.
    Last Xmas I got sick eating Gammon this year I ate a piece and was alright, I feel very uneasy when people braai pork, the smell turns my stomach rather severely.

    I trust my senses and there fore pork is no longer a food consideration to me, but why?
    I started to read up on pork and wild boar - warthog etc
    bushpig (Potamochoerus larvatus)
    The wild boar (Sus scrofa)
    common warthog (Phacochoerus africanus)

    All are pigs, but none are domestic pig (Sus scrofa domesticus .

    I was interested in the meat and it characteristics, because of my interest in how adulterated the domestic pig "is" or is thought to be by me.

    I eat all the wild versions, but the domestic pig gross's me out big time, it stinks (as in smell)with big letters to one like me.

    Reason for interest, I ate wild domestic pig in the mountains while catching trout, it was nice, I kinda thought of Astrix and Oblix when I ate it, kinda understood their love for it - far, fkin far from the fat greasy thing we get in the shops.
    Yes goat, venison - perhaps turkey (dry white meat) came to mind.




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    I was lucky enough that Methos understood the depth of my interest in things new and foreign. I got a message asking for cell number and he would send me vids in small sections of the hunt.

    It was very interesting to see the photo's pre-hunt and do as I do, analyze the background - my favorite thing with photo's from other worlds.

    The smoke out the hunt lodge chimney at 08 in morning, that the plastic crates there are the same as ours, but the warning signs are a different shape.
    The dogs are still in the same sad cages.

    I was able to see his hunt and understand the build up, better realize what he means when he sais he heard one coming, I saw the brush, Rosemary, and the quarts stone ground they hunt on.
    Two things I realized, this hunting requires a whole different level of shooting skills - maybe our for fathers, fresh off the boats really did shoot springbuck running at 300 yards. Secondly, where he is this time, ricochets must be a real realistic concern.

    The " how to" video regarding splitting a pig in two was a bit disappointing - its so simple. (well, at least it looks so simple)-(or do you just make it look easy?)

    How high is the tower you in?
    What caliber do you shoot"
    Bolt or S/L/R, single shot or magazine fed ?
    Do they ever walk and stalk in those parts?

    Metho's, thanks for reaching out and sharing with me - you need to paint that wall boet, some day when you not hunting maybe

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    No problem Treeman. Was fun to share with someone who is interested.

    We hunted the area where I shot my biggest biggest boar yet 2 years ago. There were 24 guys on the posts and 7 trackers and around 60 dogs. On the way to my post I saw a lot of boar activity, spots where they dug stuff up etc. Felt good. In front of me I had 2 valleys. The boars were in the second valley and they decided that they didn't want to come over to my side of the valley. As I got a walkie talkie for Fathers day I could follow what was happening. 3 Boars were shot when they came out on the other side. Then things quieted down we sat there without much news when at 12 we were told to pack up and head over to the road because they found the boars in a bunch of small pine trees around 2km away.

    When I got to the 4X4 they moved us to surround the area where they found the boars. I was placed next to a small gravel road that overlooked a valley and had a biggish mountain in front of me. What has to be understood is that the area being hunted is immense! The closest person to me were around 500m away. My job was to try and see if boars use the dense vegetation at the bottom to try and sneak out of the valley. I heard shots to my right and moved around 100m to my right where I would have a better view.

    I started hearing branches cracking and stones rolling. I scanned the mountain in front of me but couldn't see anything. I wear electronic hearing protectors amplify sound but they also make it difficult to pinpoint where a sound is coming from. The bushes were also so thick on the other side that I couldn't see any movement. Then suddenly I saw bushes moving. Rifle went to the shoulder but safety still on pointing down. Then I saw the boar for a split second and I saw where it should cross in a open spot of around 4m. When the boar came into view I saw it was one that fell into our shooting criteria I aimed for it's head and shot at around 80 to a 100m. As it was moving down in a straight line it was a simpler shot. It fell dead right there. I let the organisers know because we stop when we reach the number that they decided on.

    The hunt continued for another few hours but nothing more came my way. Then came the time to go and fetch the boar. I had to make a detour of around 300m and fight through thick growth etc. Got there eventually and took a photo and saw that the bullet went in right behind the ear, broke the neck broke one shoulder. I also saw that dragging it out would be impossible! so had to carry it back up the mountain. Sweated buckets and told myself that the guys who did the K2 ascent in winter had it easy compared to me ;). I was full of blood as you can see on the photo.

    When we got back to the clubhouse I had to wait for my rifle case to come back from the hunting area. It was already quite late so when it finally got back and we started to empty the boars. I asked the president if I can just take mine whole and he said yes since there were 9 other boars to clean as well. Gutted it at home and on Sunday morning skinned it and processed it. It was the most meat damage that I've ever had with the 308. The one shoulder had to be thrown away.

    As for your questions Treeman - Walk and stalk is not permitted by our club - not with a rifle in any case. You can take your shotgun and dog and go hunt pheasants and if your dog finds a boar you are allowed to shoot it with slugs. It will be very very difficult to walk and stalk - the boars are mostly nocturnal. We are allowed to hunt an hour before sunrise and an hour before sunset. You might be able to get lucky then but I haven't been lucky yet - Did it at my old club behind my house.

    There are only two towers in our whole hunting area. Most of the time you just go to where they tell you too and when you are there you place yourself like you want.

    Ricochets are a concern but not as big as you would think. Each person has their defined shooting area and you mark out your 30 degrees safe angle in function to your neighbour. A lot of times you can't even see your neighbour because of valleys etc. Shot must also always have a backstop and be downward.

    I shoot a Marlin XS 7 bolt action in 308. I'm the only guy at the club who has a bolt action. Most popular is semi autos in 300win mag and 9.3x62. A few people have 9.3x74 in express. One 30-30, one 30-06. 2 Blaser straight pulls.

    As I told you via Whatsapp - I'm not the home owner ;) Busy looking for a house to buy - I'll paint that one ;)

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    Some photos

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    In total 14 boars were shot during the hunt - When I left there were 10 down but another 4 were brought down after.

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