View Poll Results: Will you be getting a COVID-19 vaccine

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    78 29.77%
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  1. #3951
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messor View Post
    Thiis virus was so closely related to sars that they named it as such, sars-cov-2.

    Then you get the fact that most people just shrugged it off without symptoms.
    If you then couple that with the fact that the lab leak theory is looking to be the most likely one, I would say they just looked for the original virus in the bats and modified it a bit.

    So, to sum up, I think this virus is nothing new, I think the "new" can be directly linked to stuff they tweaked on the virus.
    Modified it a bit alright.
    Mutation is like this - CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT GTT
    CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT GTG so the last amino acid changed, GTT became GTG

    Insert is going to look like this-
    CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT CTG (NORMAL)
    CAA ACT AAT TCA - CCT CGG CGG GCA - CGT AGT CTG ( NOT Normal)

    So that amino acid sequence ( CCT CGG CGG GCA ) just somehow got there, it's not how natural/selection evolution works, it would take many decades to naturally achieve that.

    Yes, I agree a bat corona virus was the starting point, the rest was done in a lab.

    I don't think it was intentionally created to produce a pandemic or any dramatic outcome such as we are know experiencing.
    I would rather suspect that the scientists were dicking around with experiments and unintentionally landed us with this goat fork.

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    government scientists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean KZN View Post
    Modified it a bit alright.
    Mutation is like this - CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT GTT
    CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT GTG so the last amino acid changed, GTT became GTG

    Insert is going to look like this-
    CAA ACT AAT TCA CGT AGT CTG (NORMAL)
    CAA ACT AAT TCA - CCT CGG CGG GCA - CGT AGT CTG ( NOT Normal)

    So that amino acid sequence ( CCT CGG CGG GCA ) just somehow got there, it's not how natural/selection evolution works, it would take many decades to naturally achieve that.

    Yes, I agree a bat corona virus was the starting point, the rest was done in a lab.

    I don't think it was intentionally created to produce a pandemic or any dramatic outcome such as we are know experiencing.
    I would rather suspect that the scientists were dicking around with experiments and unintentionally landed us with this goat fork.
    The virus will mutate to survive - previous viruses have showed that they'll do this. But they will become less deadly as they mutate themselves into a corner with a growing resistant population.

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    I found another shop today that is a bit out of my normal area but that I will now support on a regular basis. Not a mask on them, just a friendly smiles. My kind of place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleock View Post
    What do you make of the higher instances of deaths in the partially vaccinated groups vs. the unvaccinated?
    None of them shows a higher death rate after full vaccination

    None of the weeks show a higher death rate in the within 21 days of shot vs unvaccinated.

    Only one of the weeks in which the after 21 days post shot is higher than the unvaccinated group and the rate isn't specifically tagged as being unreliable due to too little data

    At peak infection when there are many more samples the deaths in the pre-21 day, post 21 day and fully vaccinated groups are lower than unvaccinated.


    A Chi-square or Tukey test would be more appropriate to compare factors

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    If you do not like the stats, just move over to another news group or forum, we now have facts and research to cater for all groups Pro- Anti and Uncertain.
    Just search a bit and you will find the answers you Want To Hear

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    Ivermectin treatment for Covid is now supported by 113 studies, 73 of which have been peer reviewed. This includes 63 controlled trials with a total of 26,398 patients, and 31 Randomized Controlled Trials. Here is a direct link to 51 of them

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5

    https://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/34/5/3023.long

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...20.592908/full

    https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/1.../fvl-2020-0342

    https://doi.org/10.2217/fvl-2020-0342

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...67488911001145

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...211?via%3Dihub

    https://link.springer.com/article/10...10-020-01902-5

    https://doi.org/10.1038/s41429-020-0336-z

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...011?via%3Dihub

    https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.co....1002/cpt.1909

    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-73308/v1

    https://doi.org/10.1038%2Fs41579-020-00468-6

    https://www.pnas.org/content/112/30/9436

    https://doi.org/10.3389%2Ffmicb.2020.592908

    https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/1...boj/16.23.7067

    https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/5/734/5860442

    https://doi.org/10.1038%2Fs41418-020-00633-7

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0168170

    https://www.cell.com/cell-host-micro...128(20)30290-0

    https://link.springer.com/article/10...011-008-8007-8

    https://doi.org/10.1038/sigtrans.2017.23

    https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/arti...046-019-1251-7

    https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1443

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2015432

    https://www.journalofinfection.com/a...234-6/fulltext

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...020.00827/full

    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6504/718

    https://ann-clinmicrob.biomedcentral...41-020-00362-2

    https://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/72/2/486

    https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JVI.01012-07

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41418-020-00633-7

    https://doi.org/10.3390%2Fcancers11101527

    https://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/76/15/4457

    https://rupress.org/jgp/article/123/...ation-of-Human -P2X4 https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...017.00291/full

    https://www.jimmunol.org/content/200/3/1159

    https://molmed.biomedcentral.com/art...20-020-00172-4

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29511601/

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...293-0/fulltext

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...6.2009.00684.x

    https://doi.org/10.1007%2Fs00011-011-0307-8

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...376-6/fulltext

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22417684/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7502160/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7605516/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27302166/

    https://link.springer.com/article/10...10-020-01902-5

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826853/

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3636557

    https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/1...emmm.202114122

    No need for experimental drugs to be pushed if a drug that won the Nobel Prize is already working.

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    Need? Medicine is profit-driven. The pharmaceutical companies always need to make more money.
    The latest webinar is out from the FLCCC.

    The FLCCC Weekly Update—September 22, 2021
    Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Paul Marik join host Betsy Ashton to provide several important updates.

    15:51—Physician/scholars called "fringe doctors"
    18:00—MATH+ Hospital Protocol update
    20:21—Dr. Paul Marik's new landmark paper: "The Pathophysiology of COVID." The mechanisms of COVID. Why it causes such sickness and death.
    23:25—The success of Uttar Pradesh against COVID
    34:30—How to counter pharmacists’ refusals to fill prescriptions for ivermectin.

    https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19...GzjFDZJ5ozLiVF

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLR View Post
    None of them shows a higher death rate after full vaccination

    None of the weeks show a higher death rate in the within 21 days of shot vs unvaccinated.

    Only one of the weeks in which the after 21 days post shot is higher than the unvaccinated group and the rate isn't specifically tagged as being unreliable due to too little data

    At peak infection when there are many more samples the deaths in the pre-21 day, post 21 day and fully vaccinated groups are lower than unvaccinated.


    A Chi-square or Tukey test would be more appropriate to compare factors
    Sorry dat ek jou nou op die spot sit but I need to hear this straight.

    You have (A) an unvaccinated person and (B) an vaccinated person 1-10 days after the jab. No other data.
    You must give one Covid. Who and why?

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