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    Hi there. Can anyone help me I'd the round on the far right please? I think it's an IMI 115gr but what type or what is it used for?

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    i do speak under correction. looking at the bullet it has the rounded red plastic nose to facilitate feeding in a semi auto. under the plastic cap is a convex wadcutter with a small pin protruding forward.
    these were normally marked +P and were very light for calibre. I had some in 38 special in only 115gr and they were made for self protection,as in high speed but limiting a through wound.
    If yours is in 9mm,i would think it would be lighter than 115gr.

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    NGA Eliminator.
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    Yip, NGA 85 grain Eliminator. I believe the black tipped one was slightly lighter. The plastic tip on it facilitates feeding. Makes for a big-ass hydrostatic shockwave when it hits water.

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    Was made locally by New Generation Ammunition about 20 years ago.
    Some were 78gr bullets moving at 1453ft/s

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    The plastic tip on it facilitates feeding.
    Ironically, unless you glued them on thoroughly, they tended to do the opposite.

    For what its worth, and for anyone who has any interest in this sort of thing, these came out at a time when the height of cutting edge bullet design was GECO BAT, Winchester Silvertip and the THV.

    They came out at a time when not much was known (as opposed to speculated upon) about terminal wound ballistics and, that of bullets fired at handgun velocities, in particular.

    Bullets of the time tended to sacrifice penetration for permanent cavity diameter and temporary cavitation, with an emphasis on the latter.

    The Eliminator was pretty good for what it was. It fed better than the THV and did a bit better in fluid media penetration wise too, as I recall.

    The THV, when run at retarded velocities (ask me how I know) did better on hard surfaces and through armour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    The THV, when run at retarded velocities (ask me how I know) did better on hard surfaces and through armour.
    "Retarded" as in slower, or "retarded" as in "f*kn crazy faster"?

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    I used to carry them in a Star BM that refused to feed hollow point ammo but fed the eliminators perfectly. Then a friend, who also carried Eliminators, fired an insurance shot into a large warthog boar's forehead before dragging it out of a bush. The base of the eliminator was visible in the bullet hole, it had stopped against the skull. We both went back to carrying fmj's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
    "Retarded" as in slower, or "retarded" as in "f*kn crazy faster"?
    The latter, as in 2600fps out of a Glock 17.

    You could de-prime the case with a paper clip and light finger pressure.

    It did go through 3 level 3A vest panels though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    The latter, as in 2600fps out of a Glock 17.

    You could de-prime the case with a paper clip and light finger pressure.

    It did go through 3 level 3A vest panels though.
    fook

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