Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

**Eben Wiid** · 14-05-2021, 21:56

Originally Posted by SSP

They are used in poaching.

This argument is a slippery slope. It implies that they should ban the things used in crimes. Like handguns. Like SLRs.

Just wait, they will add screwdrivers, bread knives and scissors on there as well. No logic as mentioned in another post. This is how critical theory works, rational thinking is apparently used to oppress people and therefor the system of rational thinking and logic must be broken down and a new "better system" created that does not "oppress" people like the truth, logic and rational thinking oppress people. Go figure....

**Hennie Barnard** · 15-05-2021, 09:58

Originally Posted by MJC

Hopefully all this talk of further restrictions helps set our priorities straight as a community.

We need to support our organizations and lobby them. That's something we can all do, no excuses.

All of us have a role to play. Many hands make light work.

If we don't act we will eventually lose access to private firearms ownership in SA.

Slowly but surely, like a frog in boiling water government will see it's agenda become reality.

Hopefully the organizations can band together and put aside differences. If they can't, the future is very uncertain. Much is at stake.

Agreed. There are far too many gun owners complaining but not willing to open their wallets every month even just for a R100, maar hulle sal dop koop.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

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**SoldierMan** · 15-05-2021, 10:45

Originally Posted by Hennie Barnard

Agreed. There are far too many gun owners complaining but not willing to open their wallets every month even just for a R100, maar hulle sal dop koop.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

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Great quote and highly relevant.

**MJC** · 16-05-2021, 17:16

Originally Posted by Hennie Barnard

Agreed. There are far too many gun owners complaining but not willing to open their wallets every month even just for a R100, maar hulle sal dop koop.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

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100%.

We need to get our friends and family involved. This is all of our fight.

**Paul** · 17-05-2021, 07:12

So... BEFORE the news came out last week GOSA (because we had an inkling this was going to happen) sent copies of the 2013 presentation to the Civilian Secretary's working group, and GOSA's own presentation to the PPC in 2015 to the Chair of the PPC.

We have also sent copies of our presentation on 'simplify, reduce duplication, license the person, register the firearm' through to the DA Shadow Minister and the Leader if the FF+.

Guys, we're running at this full tilt, but we need your weight behind us.

Oh, and SAPS are appealing Martin's Fidelity order to the ConCourt... as we were certain they would. This is serious.

**Skaaphaas** · 17-05-2021, 07:35

And the CC has not proven itself especially (or even marginally) in favour of civilian gun ownership.

**Snow** · 17-05-2021, 14:20

Originally Posted by Paul

So... BEFORE the news came out last week GOSA (because we had an inkling this was going to happen) sent copies of the 2013 presentation to the Civilian Secretary's working group, and GOSA's own presentation to the PPC in 2015 to the Chair of the PPC.

We have also sent copies of our presentation on 'simplify, reduce duplication, license the person, register the firearm' through to the DA Shadow Minister and the Leader if the FF+.

Guys, we're running at this full tilt, but we need your weight behind us.

Oh, and SAPS are appealing Martin's Fidelity order to the ConCourt... as we were certain they would. This is serious.

Except for being a paid-up member of GOSA (I am), is there anything else we can do? For example a petition or something? What additionally can we do to support you guys?