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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    We just had this happen:



    Then they come out and say on national news that we have to get rid of legal firearms ASAP.

    I suspect that the success of these two in the video have angered a lot of people who would have preferred to see them dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyc View Post
    As mentioned elsewhere, according to this writing, they are attacking silencers: https://www.gov.za/sites/default/fil...409/285450.pdf
    Because silencers are used so often in crimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierMan View Post
    Because silencers are used so often in crimes
    They are used in poaching.

    This argument is a slippery slope. It implies that they should ban the things used in crimes. Like handguns. Like SLRs.
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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper103 View Post
    Guys how are we going to fight this.
    Get right with God, and pray

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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Also that bill is not current. I made the same mistake earlier in this thread.
    Sent electronically, thus not signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    They are used in poaching.

    This argument is a slippery slope. It implies that they should ban the things used in crimes. Like handguns. Like SLRs.
    Ah right. How often though, some poachers use very rudimentary old bolt rifles but I suppose there are those with more expensive guns?
    Don't get me wrong I don't think silencers should be controlled just curious.

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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyc View Post
    As mentioned elsewhere, according to this writing, they are attacking silencers: https://www.gov.za/sites/default/fil...409/285450.pdf
    That's 15 years old though. Surely the 2018 draft is more applicable, as the 2021 draft will just be slightly trimmed down due to the public response on the 2018 draft.

    I can't remember silencers/suppressors being mentioned in the draft though, might be mistaken.

    This was the 2018 draft for anyone interested : https://www.ctsasa.co.za/wp-content/...ent-Bill-3.pdf

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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Carter Brink View Post
    Get right with God, and pray
    I think that you will find that there are far more practical, and effective, ways to deal with draft bill.
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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Hopefully all this talk of further restrictions helps set our priorities straight as a community.

    We need to support our organizations and lobby them. That's something we can all do, no excuses.

    All of us have a role to play. Many hands make light work.

    If we don't act we will eventually lose access to private firearms ownership in SA.

    Slowly but surely, like a frog in boiling water government will see it's agenda become reality.

    Hopefully the organizations can band together and put aside differences. If they can't, the future is very uncertain. Much is at stake.

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    Default Re: Firearms Amendment Bill of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierMan View Post
    Ah right. How often though, some poachers use very rudimentary old bolt rifles but I suppose there are those with more expensive guns?
    Don't get me wrong I don't think silencers should be controlled just curious.
    You miss the point.

    It doesn't matter how often they are used in crimes.

    We don't ban cars because they are used in robberies.

    We don't ban cameras because they are used to manufacture child pornography.

    We don't ban hardons because they are used in rapes.

    We ban guns because they are a threat to the government's monopoly on violence and limit their ability to enforce their wishes and demands for money at gunpoint.
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