Calling A-R need to chat about 303 Scout Rifle concept

**Ds J** · 18-06-2021, 22:15

Originally Posted by TStone

I wear electronic earplugs, molded for my ears, sweat don't do anything to them. Cutting a 24" barrel back to 18" or shorter and then fitting a suppressor to bring the length back to 24", and spoil the balance, makes no sense to me at all. But each to his own.

If I have it correct, the volume of a suppressor makes a big difference in its performance, together with the shape of the baffles. My plan is to get a thick, short suppressor. It just needs to take the worst decibels off the shot.

**Gert Odendaal** · 18-06-2021, 22:52

Originally Posted by Ds J

Short barrels often throw a large flame.

I am planning to use the scout rifle concept to build a bakkie rifle.

16" barrel, suppressor, a very short stock and a forward mounted telescope if possible.

Ds.J ek sal maar hou by my 29.5 duim Mauser 8x57JS loop en sal dit maar my Cruiser dakrak jag geweer maak..genoeg plek om op my dakrak vas te maak

**CorditeCrazy** · 18-06-2021, 22:57

Thanks chaps. The length question has just been answered, going to 16” seems like an option then

**curious george** · 18-06-2021, 23:05

Maybe revisit this thread for some ideas?

https://www.gunsite.co.za/forums/sho...=1#post1337868

I posted a pdf from a magnum on shortened Lee rifles

**KK20** · 19-06-2021, 05:02

Originally Posted by CorditeCrazy

Thanks chaps. The length question has just been answered, going to 16” seems like an option then

Will one need special hand loads to get reasonably good down range results?
I would like 16-16.5 on my build.

**MrK** · 19-06-2021, 06:13

I have seen a few .303's cut down,suppressed and fitted with R4 folding stock used as "bakkie" rifles. Maybe an option if you want it as compact as possible?

**Ds J** · 19-06-2021, 06:45

Originally Posted by MrK

I have seen a few .303's cut down,suppressed and fitted with R4 folding stock used as "bakkie" rifles. Maybe an option if you want it as compact as possible?

On photos those look functional and they would probably work well. My preference is for a solid stock. However, I have a few months till the card arrives. It gives plenty of time to rethink everything.

**CorditeCrazy** · 19-06-2021, 09:50

Originally Posted by KK20

Will one need special hand loads to get reasonably good down range results?
I would like 16-16.5 on my build.

I don’t think you would need a special load, that being said there is a great “soft” load that gives great results in my Long Lee’s, SMLE’s and No4’s:
Courtesy of Tobie
38,5gr S335
OAL: 77,6mm
174gr PMP softpoint

**MSW2** · 19-06-2021, 10:55

Originally Posted by MrK

I have seen a few .303's cut down,suppressed and fitted with R4 folding stock used as "bakkie" rifles. Maybe an option if you want it as compact as possible?

They are nice. The only thing is the stock needs to fold down along the left side of the rifle so you can work the bolt on the right.

**TStone** · 19-06-2021, 11:04

Originally Posted by Ds J

If I have it correct, the volume of a suppressor makes a big difference in its performance, together with the shape of the baffles. My plan is to get a thick, short suppressor. It just needs to take the worst decibels off the shot.

Have a look at the Ase Utra SL5i, it only ads 4" to overall length and the ones I have seen in the veld were surprisingly effective.