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    Default Lessons learned from KZN Riots

    1. Morning all.

      Almost a year has gone by since we experienced the national looting spree, so whilst it is still "fresh" in our minds I decided to compile a "disaster how to" should it happen again for our local community. I do understand that the event was extremely brutal and traumatic but I am sure this information can help a lot for others to prepare or mitigate major damage to their families or communities.

      The situation was utterly dynamic in all spheres of what you guys went through especially in each community and towns thus I am trying to summarise real life experiences and first hand accounts. I have family in Balito but being two females, they mainly stood out of harm’s way and only followed the situation on social media and MSN.

      I am not only looking for lessons from the actual armed conflicts with the looters but the social impact as well.

      I don't want this to be a fear mongering document but rather a factual, critical, and properly outlined one as the chances of this happening again is unfortunately plausible. Although the different conspiracies theories that led to the riots might be interesting to know, I do not feel it will be applicable unless it can be reasonably corroborated to what might have caused flare-ups.

      Understanding how the communities were able to rally, defend, communicate and support on such short notice is what I am after. I do realise most of you did not have a view overall on what all communities experienced but I am hoping I can bring everything together.

      Thus, getting the structure of this document correct first is crucial, what I propose is.


    1. Family impact
      1. How did you see the situation unfold?
      2. Were you impacted from the start? If yes, how? If no, when did it start impacting you?
      3. Where you able to buy items before the scale of the looting increased?
      4. What did you wish you had in your house?
      5. What did you run out of before the situation ended?
      6. Did you or any member of your family run out of basic necessities such as water, medication or fuel?
      7. Has your mindset changed in any which way? (i.e. Emigration, Prepping, etc.)
      8. Have you increased your security?
      9. Anecdotal experiences you can personally share?
      10. Psychological impact.
      11. Do you think your family could have lasted longer if the scale or time increased?
      12. Did you have evac plans if possible?
      13. Did many people, that you know of, leave KZN as a result of the riots?

    2. Community Impact
      1. How did you as a community coordinate?
      2. Was there a difference in violence experienced by communities who were not able to coordinate vs those who could?
      3. How did you secure your community?
      4. Who took the lead in coordinating and securing your community? (i.e. CPF / neighbourhood watch)
      5. How did you rotate shifts?
      6. Did your community share items between yourselves and other communities?
      7. How did communities from different racial and income backgrounds support each other?
      8. How was food and fuel rationed and who took charge of the deliveries and supplies?
      9. Were air supplies useful when this started?
      10. Did you lose electricity?
      11. Do you think your community could have lasted longer if the scale or time increased?
      12. Are your communities stronger and more coordinated now then before?
      13. Where communal kitchens or trade centres created?
      14. Did many people leave KZN in the aftermath?
      15. How did the communities stay in touch with each other?
      16. Did you lose cell phone connection?
      17. Did you allow any people from other communities into yours? How was this maintained?
      18. Did petty / serious crime increase in your communities that were not related to the looting?
      19. Where private hospitals operational?

    3. Provincial Government impact
      1. How were the police and security companies helpful? Did they assist with blockades, patrols, etc?
      2. Were ambulances or fire trucks available?
      3. Were SAPS able to supply their members later or were they short supplied throughout?
      4. What was the ratio between SAPS and civilians defending roadblocks?
      5. Where there any provincial government representation?

    4. National Government Impact
      1. Was the SANDF deployment in anyway helpful?
      2. How could the government have assisted better in a realistic way?

    5. Defence (I do not really want to delve too deep into this but having some indication might be helpful)
      1. Were gun shops able to supply ammo?
      2. How was overall ammo availability?
      3. Did you experience any issues with your firearms during this time?
      4. What improvised means did you use to barricade / defend roadblocks?

    6. Looting
      1. Propaganda or the origin that caused the looting.
      2. Signs of actual looting starting. (From anecdotal feedback, I believe that “scouts” were sent to shopping malls before the looting and the looters were coordinated in city centres to start their actions.)
      3. Were the looters coordinated by MK / ANC / EFF? And where they identifiable?
      4. What sly tactics did the looters use? (I.e. use branded vehicles to try and gain entry into complexes.)
      5. Why were places such as community radios, factories, key points also targeted?
      6. How were the farms attacked?
      7. Did all the townships near your communities partake?
      8. Were the looters easily dispersed and did you front lines receive any return fire?
      9. Were there any channels for dialogue with the townships / looters?


    If you have any supporting documentation, maps or documentation or know of someone that might have more knowledge that can assist that is not on the forum that would be helpful.

    Thanks everyone.

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    Default Re: Lessons learned from KZN Riots

    My secondary plan is to create a Google Form to distribute these questions but worried it might run away.

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    Interesting, it would take up a lot of time answering all these questions.

    Basically, we just did what was necessary, we realised that we couldn't depend on Government/ Police. When the army eventually came, it was too late. According to reports, they themselves had to be "looked after" by the communities.

    We assisted wherever, whenever. This included driving to nearby town to deliver medication and food. Co-ordinated the travel "escort" of some people who needed to leave the province.

    Communities (civilians) rallied together. SAPS were hardly ever at roadblocks.

    On the most crucial day, Just before the looters came, there were some police in the "front line". When the looters came in earnest, the police fled, we civilians held the line.

    The ineptitude of Govt. and Police proved to us that we, the Civilians, hold the power and means to rule the country, no-one takes them seriously anymore. And, I seriously doubt that anyone, in their right mind, will ever hand in their firearms, in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inanabhay View Post
    Basically, we just did what was necessary, we realised that we couldn't depend on Government/ Police. When the army eventually came, it was too late. According to reports, they themselves had to be "looked after" by the communities.
    This was the reinforced learning I took from it. The State and its organs have effectively failed and they can be neither trusted nor relied upon. I made sure that I had my bakkie loaded with essentials and had a couple of guns and ammo for each competent family member at hand. I will do the same when it happens next as it surely will unless I have emigrated of at least semigrated to the Western Cape before.

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    During the looting communities set up controlled access points in the Chatsworth area, to ensure no mobs ran through. Can you believe SAPS used this opportunity to check for FA licenses of those who were present at these access points. They pulled out those with green licenses and threatened arrest. I sent a PDF to my mate to show SAPS the green card ruling. I also didn't know so many people played hockey and baseball in my Chatsworth community
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    There are already stirrings of a repeat performance. Whatever happens we need an event to shake the Cape awake.

    How will you know it has worked?… 12 Guage shotguns will be expensive and hard to find.

    You cannot dig in any patch of sand around here because of all the ostrich heads buried. A wake up call is desperately needed.

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    So you want an event or something similar happen to get people that does not think or have the same view as you to get a wake up call or am I misreading your comments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild coast View Post
    There are already stirrings of a repeat performance. Whatever happens we need an event to shake the Cape awake.

    How will you know it has worked?… 12 Guage shotguns will be expensive and hard to find.

    You cannot dig in any patch of sand around here because of all the ostrich heads buried. A wake up call is desperately needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bundu Ric View Post
    So you want an event or something similar happen to get people that does not think or have the same view as you to get a wake up call or am I misreading your comments?
    No, doubt he wants another nation wide strike to wake people up.

    The KZN riots should have done that, yet people still live in denial that it can occur again.

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    Maybe my command of English is then not up to standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild coast View Post
    Whatever happens we need an event to shake the Cape awake.

    A wake up call is desperately needed.

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    Thanks for the posts guys, really looking forward to those who have time to help complete the questions.

    I do realize it it is massive undertaking since a lot of people surely just want to carry on but I hope that I can compile something for when or if this happens again and that it might just save a life.

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